And conversely (not that I'm an expert topbander), it might be true that a good DX antenna is more than *adequate* for close in contacts in most situations.

-Steve K8LX

On 08/24/23 6:28 PM, Mike Waters wrote:
Contrary to what you hear repeated on the bands year after year, what Jim
said is *exactly* right! :-)

I'll add that NVIS is rarely —if ever— useful for working DX on 160m.

73 Mike
W0BTU
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On Thu, Aug 24, 2023, 1:40 PM Jim Brown<[email protected]>  wrote:

... the optimum height for an NVIS antenna is a quarter-wave.
Higher reduces upward radiation, lower increases ground loss. This study
was peer reviewed.

73, Jim K9YC

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