I worked my first 80 countries on 160 using an inverted-vee dipole, apex at 45 
feet, ends down around 6-10 feet.  TX power = 500W, dipole used for both TX and 
RX.
I think this qualifies a NVIS.
Wes  N7WS

    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 03:28:29 PM MST, Mike Waters 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 Contrary to what you hear repeated on the bands year after year, what Jim
said is *exactly* right! :-)

I'll add that NVIS is rarely —if ever— useful for working DX on 160m.

73 Mike
W0BTU
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On Thu, Aug 24, 2023, 1:40 PM Jim Brown <[email protected]> wrote:

> ... the optimum height for an NVIS antenna is a quarter-wave.
> Higher reduces upward radiation, lower increases ground loss. This study
> was peer reviewed.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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