Bruce,

If you want to edit a file in TBC, you need to open it with TBC. You don't
need to import it anywhere. However, if it is an external file and you want
to keep it as is, it would make sense to create your own, import bio.rdf and
edit your own file. 

In TBC you will only see the serialization code for each individual resource
you select. By default only triples in the currently selected graph are
shown, but there is a check box you can turn on to see all the relevant
triples from the imported graphs as well.

You can make changes by editing RDF serialization directly, but due to the
error prone nature of this approach we discourage it. The recommended way is
to use forms and other user interface widgets.

You can see all the triples in each graph (file) in the Triples view. I am
not sure if this view is available in TBC-Free. You can also run SPARQL
query to return all triples. Keep in mind though that the number of results
shown is by default limited to (I believe) 1,000. You can change this using
Preferences.

The only way to see the serialized text for the entire file is by opening it
with one of the built-in Eclipse editors such as text editor. With this, you
are outside of TBC.

Regards,


Irene 
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of brucewhealton
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:17 AM
To: TopBraid Suite Users
Subject: [topbraid-users] Re: Opening existing foaf file

Thanks, Holger, for clearing that up.  Indeed, it does make sense.
Like you said, RDF and OWl do not distinguish between the schema and
the instance data.  The Protege project from Stanford seems to declare
that there are differences in the way they represenst things and that
instance data, or an RDF store.  From what I read and fromt he
feedback I got there are differences in the way they represent each,
thus there would be problems with using that as an Editing tool for
RDF.

One other issue about importing an existing rdf file.  I had a bio.rdf
file which used FOAF, Biography ontology - BIO, REL, and a few
others.  As you mentioned above, "The source code view only shows the
triples that have the currently selected resource as subject."  Is
there any way to change that so the existing instance data from my
bio.rdf file would be recognized both with regard to the instance data
that was in the file and with the triples that existed?  I did right
click on the file and say edit with editor.  That doesn't give me any
means to edit the file within TBC other than manually editing the xml
code.  What if I had just imported that into an existing file?

On Jul 25, 3:07 am, Holger Knublauch <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 2011, at 4:36 PM, brucewhealton wrote:
>
> > Next question: So, this was recommended by someone as a tool for
> > editing rdf files in various serializations.  I notice in the help
> > file that it is described as a tool for editing and creating
> > ontologies, which is a little different.  Do people use TBC for
> > editing RDF or OWL files that serve as "data" or instance data as
> > opposed to modeling things which an ontology does?  I hope that makes
> > sense.  It is great to have a tool that does both if that is
> > possible.  When I want to create a new ontology, I can do that here.
> > When I have a few ontologies and want to save data, as triples using
> > those ontologies, I assume I can use TBC for this as well.
>
> Yes absolutely - TBC is for editing both classes and instances. If you
think about it, classes and properties are just different types of instances
(of metaclasses), so it makes sense to use a generic approach with forms
that display and edit any kind of RDF data. The term "ontology" is
overloaded - some people use it to describe the schema, while others regard
any RDF/OWL model as ontology. This is probably what the documentation does
as well.
>
> Holger

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