Ralph Hodgson wrote:

> I note your question on OWL-DL compliance. This is hard to do when SKOS is
 in the mix.

Indeed. However, since QUDT only uses SKOS incidentally, it would be better
not to include SKOS at source. This would make QUDT immediately usable in
OWL-DL compliant applications. Currently the onus is the wrong way round
IMO. The SKOS axioms could still be provided in a separate resource. However,
I'm not really convinced that SKOS match adds much in this context. Better
to make it an annotation property, such as rdfs:seeAlso.

Holger Knublauch wrote:

> Also, for OWL DL compliance just download a copy of QUDT and delete the 
> triples
that you don't want

Yes, that is what we have done for now. But we would prefer to refer
directly to the web-hosted resource. Clone and modify is not really in the
spirit of the semantic _web_ is it?


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:14 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
>
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/topbraid-users/topics
>
>    - QUDT - issues and prospects? <#13fcd39eee418bcd_group_thread_0> [3
>    Updates]
>
>   QUDT - issues and 
> prospects?<http://groups.google.com/group/topbraid-users/t/4bb10ef52716a7f2>
>
>    Simon Cox <[email protected]> Jul 10 09:50PM -0400
>
>    Since QUDT has been put on the table, I'd like to ask if anyone has any
>    insight about its future maintenance and governance? I tried to
>    contact the
>    NASA editors, but did not receive a reply. Since TopQuadrant were the
>    other
>    part of the development team, perhaps someone listening to this list
>    has
>    some information?
>
>    There are some issues with QUDT that make it hard to integrate into
>    bigger
>    projects.
>    For example, the current version uses skos:exactMatch properties to
>    relate
>    many QUDT classes to DBpedia resources.
>    Under SKOS semantics both domain and range of the semantic relations
>    (including exactMatch) is skos:Concept.
>    So the QUDT resources are both Class and Individual, which is not
>    OWL-DL
>    compliant. These properties could be replaced with rdfs:seeAlso to
>    remove
>    the problem.
>
>    Any news?
>
>    Simon Cox
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    Ralph Hodgson <[email protected]> Jul 10 07:37PM -0700
>
>    I am the lead ontologist for QUDT and the NASA QUDT Handbook being
>    produced
>    (using SWP and LaTeX generators) from release 2 of QUDT. This release
>    is
>    substantially larger, having all of ISO 80000 domains.
>
>    Currently we are in an editorial review of the handbook at NASA HQ.
>    After
>    that there will be a technical review within NASA.
>
>    In the next 2 to 3 weeks we will be releasing a subset of release 2
>    for
>    beta testing.
>
>    A presentation on QUDT was recently made at PDE2013 -
>    see
>    
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/144117099/The-NASA-QUDT-Quantities-Units-Dimensions-and-Data-Types-Handbook-and-Ontologies-–-A-Model-Based-Foundation-for-Quantitative-Data-Alignment-and-E
>
>    I note your question on OWL-DL compliance. This is hard to do when
>    SKOS is
>    in the mix. Why do you need OWL-DL compliance? What kind of
>    inferencing do
>    you have the need for? If its simply for integrity checks on the
>    models, we
>    have ways of doing that using SPIN.
>
>
>    On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:50:30 PM UTC-4, Simon Cox wrote:
>
>
>
>
>    Holger Knublauch <[email protected]> Jul 11 01:39PM +1000
>
>    On 7/11/2013 12:37, Ralph Hodgson wrote:
>    > SKOS is in the mix. Why do you need OWL-DL compliance? What kind of
>    > inferencing do you have the need for? If its simply for integrity
>    > checks on the models, we have ways of doing that using SPIN.
>
>    Also, for OWL DL compliance just download a copy of QUDT and delete
>    the
>    triples that you don't want the OWL DL reasoners to see. Something like
>
>    DELETE WHERE {
>    ?a skos:exactMatch ?b .
>    }
>
>    Holger
>
>
>
>
>
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