Hello Holger!

Thanks for the information. We'd be very interested in trying out the TBC SE 4.4 beta version, and then upgrade to final 4.4 when it is released.

We have used up our ME evaluation period on at least one of the machines. But if there are problems with the 4.4 beta, we could try to use ME for 30 days as a backup plan.

If you want to contact us off-list about the beta, please send e-mail to [email protected]. Many in our group are on vacation for the next few days (including myself), but we will resume work in the beginning of January. It would be perfect if we could have the beta version available on 2 January.

Best regards,
Osma

20.12.2013 00:42, Holger Knublauch kirjoitti:
Hello Osma,

we plan to release 4.4 in January. We have not yet decided whether we
will make an official round of public betas but I am pretty sure we
could send you a copy of TBC SE 4.4 ahead of the final release date.
Sorry we have no plans for another 4.3 that would fix this particular
issue.

If you haven't evaluated TBC-ME yet, you should be able to run TBC-ME
4.3 on those machines for 30 days until you can upgrade to 4.4 SE.

Regards, Holger


On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Osma Suominen wrote:

On 18/12/13 00:12, Holger Knublauch wrote:
This could be a bug in the sorted turtle writer (although I could
not reproduce this locally). All editions of 4.4 will use a
different sorted turtle writer (previously known as C14N) by
default. Previous versions of Standard Edition do not have this
feature.

Hi Holger!

Thanks for your response.

I found out some more details. The problem happens only with
literals which have the same content but different language tag,
e.g. "abc"@en and "abc"@de. The order of these appears to change
randomly on every save.

Attached is a fairly minimal test file with one rdfs:Class having
multiple rdfs:labels with same content but different language tags.
I created it using TBC SE 4.3.1, saved as Sorted Turtle, did a
minor edit which I immediately reverted (just to enable the Save
button), and saved again. The rdfs:label values are now in
different order:

--- sorted-turtle-2-test.ttl    2013-12-19 12:34:27.304913732 +0200
+++ sorted-turtle-test.ttl      2013-12-19 12:34:24.364851583 +0200 @@
-12,5 +12,5 @@

:Class_1 rdf:type rdfs:Class ; -      rdfs:label "TestClass"@fi ,
"TestClass"@sv , "TestClass"@de , "TestClass"@en ; +
rdfs:label "TestClass"@en , "TestClass"@de , "TestClass"@sv ,
"TestClass"@fi ; rdfs:subClassOf owl:Class .


What is the timetable of 4.4? Is it possible to use the new C14N
writer with 4.3.1? Or would it be possible to fix just this one
issue in 4.3.1? This is a near-show-stopper for us, because it
limits development to just one person at a time, as SVN merges are
in practice impossible to do. Having just purchased 6 licenses this
is a bit inconvenient...

Best regards, Osma Suominen

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