It is a fact that RDFS was not designed as a vocabulary for specifying classes 
in an object oriented way, meaning as in ‘defining a template for instances’. 
It was designed to support inferences for ‘knowledge discovery’ - taking either 
an un-typed resource and deriving its type or a resource that doesn’t have all 
the type information and inferring additional type triples. In other words, it 
was designed to support classification.

 

In practical use, however, people found that they needed a simple to use 
vocabulary for specifying class properties (simpler than OWL) and they started 
using RDFS that way. With rare exceptions, this is a much more common RDFS use 
case than the one that is about inferring class membership. 

 

So, the purist view point is technically correct, but practically - not so 
much. What is happening in real use, now that we all have more experience with 
using the standards to support business requirements, has to trump what was 
planned and envisioned in a speculative way when the standard was first 
developed. This kind of evolution happens all the time with standards and with 
technologies in general.

 

 

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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:40 AM
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Subject: RE: [topbraid-users] domain ' inheritance'

 

Hi Holger,

 

Somehow YOUR reply came in my spam box, so my response is a bit late,

 

But what an interesting personal view!

 

Still I think we run into formal problems ignoring the official RDFS semantics.

 

Informal expectations might this way conflict with reasoners output etc.

 

Informally “Adding properties to class” by formally adding “classes to 
properties (ie domain definitions)” is IMHO a recipe for problems.

 

If you do this and then say the properties are somehow “inherited” to the 
subclasses I think things get even worse.

 

(I was triggered on this issue earlier when using your EVN approach where 
properties are depicted as belonging to a class in case of domains specified).

 

So, when you say “not entirely correct” I would rather say “entirely incorrect”

 

But ok, this is just MY personal view, gr Michel

 



 

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On Behalf Of Holger Knublauch
Sent: zondag 22 juni 2014 11:10
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Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] domain ' inheritance'

 

Thx very much for your consideration. In NL were working on a national modeling 
guide in which linking classes <> properties is an important issue (typically 
difficult/different for many involved since it differs from tradiotional 
modeling approaches).

In my *personal* opinion you may also chose to simply ignore the official RDFS 
semantics and apply the intuitive and mainstream interpretation of rdfs:domain 
as a way to "attach" a property to a class, rdfs:range to restrict the values 
and rdfs:subClassOf as inheritance. While officially this is not entirely 
correct, it will most likely have no negative side effects to start with that 
(object-oriented) point of view for your ontologies. After more than ten years 
of semantic technology standards, the official formal semantics have not become 
widely used and in my *personal* opinion this is never going to change either. 
See the increasing popularity of JSON-LD and "simple" ontologies like 
schema.org to see where this is going.

Holger

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