Scott, I have the online documentation open and went through every subfolder looking for documentation on which (non-Jena) packages to import to support restful sparql queries to TBL, or examples of how to make the calls, and found nothing. Then I ran a search on 'java' and looked through the 79 results and only really found mention of java under the title "Extending top braid suite" but that only casually described a process and I believe I am further along with the Jena API. Maybe I am looking in the wrong places. Thanks.
Jack On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 5:19:51 PM UTC-8, Jack Hodges wrote: > > Scott, > > If I can make the call to TBL w/o the Jena interface then great. I'll look > it up in the Composer Help pages (which, along with the SWP manual, are > almost always open anyway, and now the SPIN manual as well) and will hope > to find good java examples there. Thanks, > > Jack > > On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 4:50:00 PM UTC-8, Scott Henninger wrote: >> >> OTOH, if you call the services via the REST APIs designed in the >> template, ui (SWP), sms, sparql (SPARQL Endpoint), etc. servlet, then you >> can use TBL as a server platform. These are well-documented in the Composer >> Help pages, and all can be used by Java in a RESTful context. >> >> -- Scott >> >> >> On Feb 27, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Irene Polikoff <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Jack, >> >> What are you trying to accomplish? Why do you need to make Jena calls to >> TBL? This will not work. >> >> >> >> From: Jack Hodges <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: <[email protected]> >> Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 6:57 PM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] exporting spin functions to fuseki >> >> I just remembered where I saw the fuseki reference and thought it was >> condoned by TQ. It is in the Learning SPARQL book. But that is unimportant. >> I downloaded the Jena git archive and edited the jena-fuseki pom.xml file >> and rebuilt the code. Holger said to use the 1.4.0 version of the SPIN >> library, which depends on jena 2.11.0. So I got that version. But the build >> failed. Since you all have been pushing TBL I returned to building out my >> TBL adapter. Yes, in the browser my SPIN rules work against the TBL >> instance I have running with TBCME, but I have not been so lucky, yet, >> making Jena calls to the TBL instance from code. They don't fail but they >> don't return results either. So for the time being I am dead in the water. >> >> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:31:03 AM UTC-8, Irene Polikoff wrote: >>> >>> In the past TQ encouraged the use of fuseki ... >>> >>> >>> This is news to me :) Must be a misunderstanding. >>> >>> SPIN API is for use by developers who want to include SPIN in their >>> programs. Thus, it is likely to be not just about the build procedures. You >>> would need to figure out how to modify fuseki so that it uses SPIN. >>> >>> Irene >>> >>> On Feb 27, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Jack Hodges <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Holger. Perhaps I need the long answer. Is there one? I went >>> to the Spin API link you provided. I am not sure how I am supposed to use >>> this information. As a maven dependency do I need to rebuild fuseki from >>> source? Or can I just take one of the jar files associated with these >>> dependencies and put them into some directory (though I do not see which >>> directory in the fuseki distribution). In the past TQ encouraged the use of >>> fuseki ... >>> >>> Jack >>> >>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 6:04:15 PM UTC-8, Holger Knublauch >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Jack, >>>> >>>> short answer: You'll need the SPIN API [1] as a plugin to Fuseki. >>>> Fuseki by itself does not know what to do with the RDF declarations of >>>> SPIN >>>> functions - they are just triples for Fuseki. >>>> >>>> BTW afn:localname is not just a TopBraid function, but is originally >>>> from Jena. So it works in Fuseki, but anything from the spif: namespace >>>> would not work. >>>> >>>> A commercial alternative to Fuseki is the TopBraid Live platform [2], >>>> and this has SPIN and TopBraid SPARQL functions built in. >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> Holger >>>> >>>> [1] http://topbraid.org/spin/api/ >>>> [2] http://www.topquadrant.com/products/topbraid-live/ >>>> >>>> On 2/27/2015 11:00, Jack Hodges wrote: >>>> >>>> I have exported a bunch of graphs to a .ttl file and then imported it >>>> into fuseki. If I run a query on fuseki to see if the functions are there >>>> - >>>> they are. If I run a query on fuseki to show the spin:body or >>>> spin:constraints they show them as anonymous objects (is that the correct >>>> term?). If I run queries on the classes and properties that my spin >>>> functions are working on I get the right results. But I cannot get results >>>> by executing my spin functions. >>>> >>>> So the classes and properties exist, the bindings exist, the spin >>>> functions exist, the prefixes are defined, but the functions don't >>>> execute. >>>> Other functions execute, such as the TopBraid functions (I tested with >>>> afn:localname for example) and they work fine. >>>> >>>> By the way, these functions have been tested in TBCME and work fine. >>>> If I take the strings I am using in fuseki and run them in the SPARQL >>>> window of TBCME they also work fine. I checked the list of models that are >>>> being exported with mine and noted that some are not exported, such as >>>> skos. Is this a problem? >>>> >>>> I must be missing something simple here. 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