On 29/11/2017 8:46, Bohms, H.M. (Michel) wrote:

Ok clear!

But better define my own group or reuse an existing tosh group?


The tosh: property groups are really about meta-shapes only, e.g. the definitions of sh:PropertyShape themselves. These are unlikely to be useful/suitable for your custom data models. So better create your own URIs.

I was wondering which group corresponds to the EVN “Properties”heading ….(if I use that one…) but I see no tosh group with label “Properties”so this might not be possible….


Some of these headings are still "hard-coded" as SWA forms. Once you have fully migrated to SHACL forms, none of these headings should show up any more.

Holger


        

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*From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Holger Knublauch
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:42 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [topbraid-users] sh:order in evn

The SHACL spec is intentionally vague about sh:order, because there are different potential use cases and it doesn't have strict semantics anyway. In the case of form building, the best practice that seems to establish itself is to combine sh:order with sh:group. You can either reuse existing property groups or create new ones. Then, use sh:order to establish the relative position of a property within its group.

The example in the spec illustrates all this

https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl/#defaultValue

Holger

On 29/11/2017 7:40, Bohms, H.M. (Michel) wrote:

    Or can I reuse the existing tosh:DisplayPropertyGroup?

        

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    Hi Irene

    The spec:

    /2.3.2.2 sh:order/

    Property shapes may have one value
    <https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl/#dfn-value> for the property
    sh:order to indicate the relative order of the property shape for
    purposes such as form building. The values of sh:order are
    decimals. sh:order is not used for validation purposes and may be
    used with any type of subjects. If present at property shapes, the
    recommended use of sh:order is to sort the property shapes in an
    ascending order, for example so that properties with smaller order
    are placed above (or to the left) of properties with larger order.

    Seems to suggest (by not saying anything about “in context of a
    group”:

      * Not always group needed for order of property shapes

    But ok, where do I actually define this one group?

    Do I just instantiate it myself next to the tosh groups?

    Thx again! Michel

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    The order is within a property group, so you need to create a
    property group and add it to each property shape.

        On Nov 28, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Bohms, H.M. (Michel)
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I tried:

        kebo:TechniqueType

          rdf:type owl:Class ;

          rdf:type sh:NodeShape ;

          rdfs:label "TechniekType"@nl ;

          rdfs:label "TechniqueType"@en ;

          rdfs:subClassOf kebo:Root ;

          sh:property [

              rdf:type sh:PropertyShape ;

              sh:path kebo:analysisAndElaboration ;

              sh:datatype xsd:string ;

              sh:name "analysisAndElaboration" ;

            ] ;

          sh:property [

              rdf:type sh:PropertyShape ;

              sh:path kebo:applicability ;

              sh:datatype xsd:string ;

              sh:name "applicability" ;

            ] ;

          sh:property [

              rdf:type sh:PropertyShape ;

              sh:path kebo:applicableForRiskType ;

              sh:class kebo:RiskType ;

              sh:name "applicableForRiskType" ;

              sh:nodeKind sh:IRI ;

            ] ;

          sh:property [

              rdf:type sh:PropertyShape ;

              sh:path kebo:background ;

              sh:datatype rdf:HTML ;

              sh:name "background" ;

              sh:order 1 ;

            ] ;

          sh:property [

              rdf:type sh:PropertyShape ;

              sh:path kebo:backgroundImage ;

              sh:datatype xsd:anyURI ;

              sh:name "backgroundImage" ;

            ] ;

          sh:property [

              rdf:type sh:PropertyShape ;

              sh:path kebo:externalExpertise ;

              sh:datatype xsd:string ;

              sh:name "externalExpertise" ;

            ] ;

          sh:property [

              rdf:type sh:PropertyShape ;

              sh:path kebo:frequency ;

              sh:datatype xsd:string ;

              sh:name "frequency" ;

            ] ;

          sh:property [

              rdf:type sh:PropertyShape ;

              sh:path kebo:goal ;

              sh:datatype xsd:string ;

              sh:name "goal" ;

              sh:order 0 ;

            ] ;

        But the order in evn of my actual property data stays
        alphabetical. What am I doing wrong?

        Thx Michel

                

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