In EDG, shapes can only be defined in Ontology asset collections (or
files in the workspace). Any EDG Ontology will automatically import dash
and tosh. Therefore, once you import a file into an EDG ontology, the
ontolgy will already use dash and tosh automatically, so that the forms
etc work as they should.
Holger
On 2021-06-21 4:44 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
wrote:
Ahh, ok, these were the dependencies I was looking for! I guess Steve too.
So we have to remember to add in case of EDG-usage. Right?
(or is the use by EDG always via the shacl api so that is automatic?)
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In addition to the extra constraint components
http://datashapes.org/constraints.html
<http://datashapes.org/constraints.html>
the dash namespace also imports the tosh namespace, which contains
constraints on the SHACL metamodel and therefore is used to drive the
forms in EDG.
What you do with the files generated with TopBraid outside of TopBraid
is of course your own decision. I assume all standards-compliant SHACL
validation engines will support at least SHACL Core without any
mandatory owl:imports. In the SHACL API that I wrote, the code uses
dash and tosh internally to identify the constraint components, so
they are internally added in case they don't exist in the provided
shapes graph. But this happens automatically.
Holger
On 2021-06-20 7:48 am, Steve Ray wrote:
Very cool! With bated breath, I tried it, and nothing blew up!
It would be good to know at some point what functionality I lose
by directly importing
owl:imports<http://www.w3.org/ns/shacl# <http://www.w3.org/ns/shacl>>;
instead of
owl:imports<http://datashapes.org/dash <http://datashapes.org/dash>>;
Steve
On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 3:36 AM David Price
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Steve and Michel
I’m not near my computer so cannot do it for you, but suggest
replacing dash import with SHACL import and trying it. I think
that’s ok.
Cheers,
David
On 19 Jun 2021, at 08:44, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via
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I have exactly the same issue in CEN TC442/WG4/TG3 ….
I now have:
# baseURI: https://w3id.org/sml/shacl/def
<https://w3id.org/sml/shacl/def>
# imports: https://w3id.org/sml/rdfs/def
<https://w3id.org/sml/rdfs/def>
# imports: http://datashapes.org/dash
<http://datashapes.org/dash>
# imports: http://qudt.org/schema/qudt
<http://qudt.org/schema/qudt>
# imports: http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind
<http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind>
# imports: http://qudt.org/vocab/unit
<http://qudt.org/vocab/unit>
# imports: http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core
<http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core>
# imports: https://www.w3.org/2006/time
<https://www.w3.org/2006/time>
# prefix: sml
@prefix dash: <http://datashapes.org/dash#
<http://datashapes.org/dash>> .
@prefix sml: <https://w3id.org/sml/def#
<https://w3id.org/sml/def>> .
@prefix owl: <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#
<http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl>> .
@prefix quantitykind: <http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind/
<http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind/>> .
@prefix qudt: <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/
<http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/>> .
@prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#
<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns>> .
@prefix rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#
<http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema>> .
@prefix sh: <http://www.w3.org/ns/shacl#
<http://www.w3.org/ns/shacl>> .
@prefix skos: <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#
<http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core>> .
@prefix time: <http://www.w3.org/2006/time#
<http://www.w3.org/2006/time>> .
@prefix unit: <http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/
<http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/>> .
@prefix xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#
<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema>> .
<https://w3id.org/sml/shacl/def
<https://w3id.org/sml/shacl/def>>
a owl:Ontology ;
owl:imports <https://w3id.org/sml/rdfs/def
<https://w3id.org/sml/rdfs/def>> ;
owl:imports <http://datashapes.org/dash
<http://datashapes.org/dash>> ;
owl:imports <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt
<http://qudt.org/schema/qudt>> ;
owl:imports <http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind
<http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind>> ;
owl:imports <http://qudt.org/vocab/unit
<http://qudt.org/vocab/unit>> ;
owl:imports <https://www.w3.org/2006/time
<https://www.w3.org/2006/time>> ;
.
Etc.
But people question the red.
Thx michel
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*Onderwerp:* [topbraid-users] Staying with official SHACL
Hi, I'm working with a standards committee that would
rather avoid straying outside the official W3C SHACL
standard. My question is, if I removed the import of
datashapes.org/dash <http://datashapes.org/dash> from the
files I'm working with, does this bring the TopQuadrant
tools to a crashing halt as far as running the SHACL reasoner?
I suppose another way of asking this is whether SHACL is
built in to TBC under the hood, or is the dash import part
of that?
Steve
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