Ok, even better Thx (for your patience…)
Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms Scientist Specialist Structural Reliability T +31 (0)88 866 31 07 M +31 (0)63 038 12 20 E [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Location<http://www.tno.nl/locations/DTS> [cid:[email protected]]<http://www.tno.nl/> This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. TNO accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail, for the manner in which you use it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the electronic transmission of messages. Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens Holger Knublauch Verzonden: maandag 21 juni 2021 08:49 Aan: [email protected] Onderwerp: Re: [topbraid-users] Staying with official SHACL In EDG, shapes can only be defined in Ontology asset collections (or files in the workspace). Any EDG Ontology will automatically import dash and tosh. Therefore, once you import a file into an EDG ontology, the ontolgy will already use dash and tosh automatically, so that the forms etc work as they should. Holger On 2021-06-21 4:44 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: Ahh, ok, these were the dependencies I was looking for! I guess Steve too. So we have to remember to add in case of EDG-usage. Right? (or is the use by EDG always via the shacl api so that is automatic?) Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms Scientist Specialist Structural Reliability T +31 (0)88 866 31 07 M +31 (0)63 038 12 20 E [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Location<http://www.tno.nl/locations/DTS> [cid:[email protected]]<http://www.tno.nl/> This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. TNO accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail, for the manner in which you use it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the electronic transmission of messages. Van: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> Namens Holger Knublauch Verzonden: maandag 21 juni 2021 00:58 Aan: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Onderwerp: Re: [topbraid-users] Staying with official SHACL In addition to the extra constraint components http://datashapes.org/constraints.html the dash namespace also imports the tosh namespace, which contains constraints on the SHACL metamodel and therefore is used to drive the forms in EDG. What you do with the files generated with TopBraid outside of TopBraid is of course your own decision. I assume all standards-compliant SHACL validation engines will support at least SHACL Core without any mandatory owl:imports. In the SHACL API that I wrote, the code uses dash and tosh internally to identify the constraint components, so they are internally added in case they don't exist in the provided shapes graph. But this happens automatically. Holger On 2021-06-20 7:48 am, Steve Ray wrote: Very cool! With bated breath, I tried it, and nothing blew up! It would be good to know at some point what functionality I lose by directly importing owl:imports <http://www.w3.org/ns/shacl#<http://www.w3.org/ns/shacl>> ; instead of owl:imports <http://datashapes.org/dash> ; Steve On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 3:36 AM David Price <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Steve and Michel I’m not near my computer so cannot do it for you, but suggest replacing dash import with SHACL import and trying it. I think that’s ok. Cheers, David On 19 Jun 2021, at 08:44, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I have exactly the same issue in CEN TC442/WG4/TG3 …. I now have: # baseURI: https://w3id.org/sml/shacl/def # imports: https://w3id.org/sml/rdfs/def # imports: http://datashapes.org/dash # imports: http://qudt.org/schema/qudt # imports: http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind # imports: http://qudt.org/vocab/unit # imports: http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core # imports: https://www.w3.org/2006/time # prefix: sml @prefix dash: <http://datashapes.org/dash#<http://datashapes.org/dash>> . @prefix sml: <https://w3id.org/sml/def#<https://w3id.org/sml/def>> . @prefix owl: <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#<http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl>> . @prefix quantitykind: <http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind/> . @prefix qudt: <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/> . @prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns>> . @prefix rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#<http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema>> . @prefix sh: <http://www.w3.org/ns/shacl#<http://www.w3.org/ns/shacl>> . @prefix skos: <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#<http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core>> . @prefix time: <http://www.w3.org/2006/time#<http://www.w3.org/2006/time>> . @prefix unit: <http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/> . @prefix xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema>> . <https://w3id.org/sml/shacl/def> a owl:Ontology ; owl:imports <https://w3id.org/sml/rdfs/def> ; owl:imports <http://datashapes.org/dash> ; owl:imports <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt> ; owl:imports <http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind> ; owl:imports <http://qudt.org/vocab/unit> ; owl:imports <https://www.w3.org/2006/time> ; . Etc. But people question the red. Thx michel Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms Scientist Specialist Structural Reliability T +31 (0)88 866 31 07 M +31 (0)63 038 12 20 E [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Location<http://www.tno.nl/locations/DTS> <image001.gif><http://www.tno.nl/> This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. TNO accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail, for the manner in which you use it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the electronic transmission of messages. 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