Relay:
* Nickname: ShinobiHouou * Fingerprint: 7E87EC2F20A371E32E6672A6D04B55471BC5D369 * Tor: 0.4.9.11 * FamilyId: K620zs7GW3AqmEOzvkGYJE/D5HsWrOrmDlckrhxbrXEThe relay has been online since 2026-07-11. Onionoo updates last_seen normally and the relay is reachable on IPv4/IPv6.
The rest of my Shinobi relay family shows family_ids in Onionoo. This is the only one missing it, out of 15 relays.
Onionoo’s full details document includes family_cert:|curl "https://onionoo.torproject.org/details?lookup=7E87EC2F20A371E32E6672A6D04B55471BC5D369" | jq|
Relevant part:|"family_cert": "AQwAB5K5AfR4C6AIeIu0XUQn5Td+xHll8Hon3vGRqcKUZIfD6YFbAQAgBAArrbTO..."|
But this still returns no family_ids:|curl "https://onionoo.torproject.org/details?lookup=7E87EC2F20A371E32E6672A6D04B55471BC5D369&fields=family_ids" | jq|
Output:
| {
"relays": [
{}
]
}|
1AEO also detects the relay as Happy Families, but keeps it under
“Pending Onionoo refresh”.
https://metrics.1aeo.com/relay/7E87EC2F20A371E32E6672A6D04B55471BC5D369/So it looks like Onionoo sees family_cert, but does not derive/expose family_ids for this relay.
I found what looks like a similar earlier tor-relays/forum thread: https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-onionoo-relays-with-family-cert-but-without-family-ids/21433Is this expected/known behavior, or is there a way to debug why family_ids is absent even though family_cert is present in Onionoo?
Any hints or sanity checks would be appreciated. rE-Bo0t.bx1 https://relays.brokenbotnet.com
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