Quick update: this has now resolved on its own.I set up a cron job to query Onionoo and send an ntfy notification once the expected family_ids value appeared.
As of Onionoo’s 2026-07-17 08:00 UTC publication, ShinobiHouou now exposes: K620zs7GW3AqmEOzvkGYJE/D5HsWrOrmDlckrhxbrXEI made no further changes to the relay or family key, so this appears to have been a longer-than-usual Onionoo processing delay. I’m leaving this update here in case another operator encounters family_cert being present while family_ids remains absent for several days.
Cheers, rE-Bo0t.bx1 https://relays.brokenbotnet.com On 7/16/26 7:19 PM, rE-Bo0t.bx1 via tor-relays wrote:
I’m seeing an Onionoo issue with one relay and wanted to check if others have seen it too.Relay: * Nickname: ShinobiHouou * Fingerprint: 7E87EC2F20A371E32E6672A6D04B55471BC5D369 * Tor: 0.4.9.11 * FamilyId: K620zs7GW3AqmEOzvkGYJE/D5HsWrOrmDlckrhxbrXEThe relay has been online since 2026-07-11. Onionoo updates last_seen normally and the relay is reachable on IPv4/IPv6.The rest of my Shinobi relay family shows family_ids in Onionoo. This is the only one missing it, out of 15 relays.Onionoo’s full details document includes family_cert:|curl "https://onionoo.torproject.org/details?lookup=7E87EC2F20A371E32E6672A6D04B55471BC5D369"; | jq|Relevant part:|"family_cert": "AQwAB5K5AfR4C6AIeIu0XUQn5Td+xHll8Hon3vGRqcKUZIfD6YFbAQAgBAArrbTO..."|But this still returns no family_ids:|curl "https://onionoo.torproject.org/details?lookup=7E87EC2F20A371E32E6672A6D04B55471BC5D369&fields=family_ids"; | jq|Output: | { "relays": [ {} ] }|1AEO also detects the relay as Happy Families, but keeps it under “Pending Onionoo refresh”.https://metrics.1aeo.com/relay/7E87EC2F20A371E32E6672A6D04B55471BC5D369/So it looks like Onionoo sees family_cert, but does not derive/expose family_ids for this relay.I found what looks like a similar earlier tor-relays/forum thread: https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-onionoo-relays-with-family-cert-but-without-family-ids/21433Is this expected/known behavior, or is there a way to debug why family_ids is absent even though family_cert is present in Onionoo?Any hints or sanity checks would be appreciated. rE-Bo0t.bx1 https://relays.brokenbotnet.com _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email [email protected]
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