Hey! Well, that's got the list talking again! Just to clear
something up: I didn't say anyone was annoyed, I was just summising. I agree
with Vince, Paul and Andy, they are indeed victims of their own crime. My
main point was the open advertising of it. Many people have bootlegs of
bootlegs - and fair play to them if it's cheaper than the inflated prices
Vince mentioned - but it's not something to advertise to a list of over
500!!

        Good to get some chat going on the list, though

Stay Mad  8-)

Simesy

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----- Original Message -----
From: Vince Foley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 10 September 2000 01:29
Subject: [total-madness] Mad CD and bootleg guilt


Hello there....
In relation to bootlegs, and in particular FSB...I
find it quite ironic that the guys who 'bring this
out' ie. Georgie or nijinski.com get pissed off....

I mean HELLO? did they record the stuff....no it was
Madness wo did....hello did they write the songs? I
don't think so.......If anyone who should be pissed
off its the bands themselves...

Bootlegs exist and they always will...I have many many
bootlegs and have gotten some invaluble stuff....but I
would never feel guilty about recording one for
someone else...the only people I would feel guilty
about would be the bands themselves...not the other
'middleman' who is producing the stuff.....

I myself have done copies of tapes/videos and CDs but
never went out to exploit material for my own
profit......I have seen Madness Xmas 99 Cds on sale
for �40, now that is offensive, firstly to the band
perhaps but more so to the prospective buyers...that
price is exploitery and really is an offense.

As for FSB the Cd....indeed its great, my only bitch
with it is it comes on 2 tracks....although I hear a
'remastered' version is doing the rounds lately which
has 27 split tracks on it with a new cover.......

The CD is out there,maybe from an unsavoury source to
begin with, but it is there and undeniably there is
some choice moments on it, yet I would have no guilt
about Mr. nijinski.com or whoever in copying it for
friend or whatever, if I was to charge, it would be a
very fair one and not an exploitery sum unlike other
'dealers' out there....

Anyway how the hell did I get onto this subject....

Young Guns Sept 27th.......I await anxiously.....

All the best

VincE!

--- Simesy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>         Hi Adam
>
>                 I'd be careful knocking these out
> because they are a limited
> edition of 500 releases from . The band
> are aware of the CD and
> have heard the contents. The 'official' ones (if
> there are any left) can be
> bought from www.nijinski.com
> I don't think Georgie Conneally, the site owner,
> would be too impressed.
> Seems to me like you have a bootleg copy of it in
> the first place if you
> don't know how many tracks there are.
>
>
>         Simesy
>
>
>
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adam Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: tmml <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 09 September 2000 18:16
> Subject: [total-madness] Mad CD
>
>
> Hi folks.  I am just writing in to let you know that
> I've come across the
> most fantastic Madness bootleg ever.  I know a guy
> who knows a guy who sells
> these for a living and he knows I'm a big fan and he
> picked it up for me.
> It's called "First Step Beyond" and I haven't
> counted the tracklisting but
> it must be well over 20 tracks.  Whoever originally
> compiled it must have
> been mates with the band, or a very clever burglar,
> as there are quite a few
> home demoes and rarities that would surely never be
> released.
>
> Highlights are:- Home demo of 'Time'  Carl saying
> "Shit, sorry tape
> recorder" and starting again, then messing up the
> piano solo, "Donald, Home
> demo" which I've never heard of, and Woody's Michael
> Caine demo, with no
> lyrics.  There must be all the jingles they did for
> radio on here, (John
> Peel, Kelly Temple, Steve Wright...) not to mention
> covers of Listen To Your
> Father (even though Carl wrote it) and My Mum's
> Roses (I don't know where
> that's from.)
>
> Anyway, it's absolutely fantastic and I wouldn't
> dream of keeping to myself,
> so if anyone wants it, I'm going to sell it for a
> tenner (three quid more
> than usual as I'm seriously in debt) and you can
> e-mail me off list for
> details.
>
> A very happy fellow, roll on Velvet Ghost album,
>
> Adam www.peoplesound.com/artist/blanche .
>
> P.S. Does anyone know where I can write to Carl, I'm
> sure he'd love to hear
> some of this.
>
> P.P.S.  Er, my band have a mini-album coming soon
> that will blow your tits
> off.  Cheerio!
>
>
>
>
>
> -
>
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