I've watched this discussion develope with great interest, and at last
someone posted a message that outlines exactly how I feel myself.
There seems to be quite a division here between those for and against,
but as Mike points out, the best thing to do is trade these tapes/CDs.
This then makes them easily available to all. If you don't have
anything to offer in return, then you can easily send along some
blanks and money to cover return p&p.
I really would love to see a Madness tape trading network develope.
I think we all agree that Vince Carden's series of CDs is exempt from
this argument, as the money he makes is put straight back into a
Madness project that must surely be beneficial to both the band and
the fans.
It's the people who charge ridiculous sums of money to sell what is
not theirs I have a problem with. As Vince F mentioned, he seen a
Wembley CD on sale for �40. How can that be justified?
Mr Smash said that some of those recordings escaped due to a mistake
he had made, but it doesn't give the person who issued them the right
to take advantage of that little slip.
All the best
Andy
> Yes folks I`ve been tempted out of the "wastelands" to make a single posting
> regarding bootlegs.
> As I lot of you know I have been working on and trading with a large number
> of bootleg recordings for at least the last 18 months - I`ve never made any
> secret of it!
>
> Whilst I (obviously!) have no personal objection to bootlegs I do violently
> disagree with profiteering by people who sell them for over inflated prices!
> I personally have never sold a single bootleg recording on tape or CD to
> anyone, I`ve always either done a straight swap for stuff I don`t already
> have or else I`ve simply given the stuff away for free.(I`ve gone on record
> here on the list a few times in the past as saying I`m not interested in
> making a penny from the list!)
>
> I can fully understand why someone such as Vince Carden has to sell CDs in
> order to be able to continue to produce Madness Unsugged.......I say fair
> play to the man as he`s not simply lining his pockets with cash from the
> sales, he`s ploughing it back into another Madness related project for folks
> to enjoy!
> Now before anyone accuses me of being on Vince`s side because he must be a
> friend of mine let me just point out that I don`t know the man and (to the
> best of my knowledge) I`ve never even spoken to him so this mail isn`t some
> kind of "old mates sticking together" plan!
>
> I`m fortunate in that I don`t have to charge anything for the recordings I
> pass onto people, I do it in the main simply because there are a lot of
> recordings of concerts out there that have special meaning to different
> folks (i.e. the Electric Ballroom last year where Vince Foley got a song
> dedicated to him!) and as the vast majority of this material will NEVER be
> available commercially I see nothing wrong in helping someone relive happy
> memories.By giving away recordings I`M the only person losing out as it`s
> costing me the price of the tape, postage, electricity to record it etc. I`m
> certainly not taking money away from anyone else! So why do I do it? Simple
> I love the music if by hearing one of my bootlegs someone else is then able
> to discover and enjoy Madness then I`m happy because I can guarantee that if
> because of me someone is introduced to the band they are certain to then go
> out to the shops and buy at least one album. Am I taking money from the band
> or indirectly making money for them? You decide!
>
> It`s a sad fact of life that someone somewhere is always going to be making
> a handsome profit out of people such as us, the real fans of a band. There
> are a lot of legitimate dealers out there who are more than happy to charge
> totally inflated prices for material without us turning on each other and
> doing the same!
> At the end of the day if you`re prepared to pay the asking price for a
> recording (bootleg or official) then pay it, if not don`t bother and walk
> away!
>
> Love, Light & Peace
> Mike H
>
> -
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