The first reference I recall seeing to the '500
copies' was in the discography at the back of the
'Take it or Leave it' film book, but no, I'm not
convinced there were only 500 either, but perhaps no
more than say 1000 or 1500 or there would be a greater
number still in general circulation today. Reason why
the 500 number is so familiar? My cynicism tells me
that this was yet another rather devious marketing
ploy by Stiff Records. Don't forget Stiff sold these
records direct to the public so if they could have the
public believe that it was some sort of rarity, then
ultimately they would of course sell more copies and
at higher prices.

As for concern at paying over the odds for this item,
although it may not be quite as rare as some of the
other promos and test pressings that sell for less, it
has now been recognised as being a key Madness rarity
for more or less 20 years and as such it holds its
value extremely well. Even if you end up having to
fork out �40-50 or $80 for it I doubt you would have
too much trouble getting your money back if you ever
decided to part with it....

....but Don't Quote Me on That!

Chris

    


--- Elizabeth Raskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not
to be difficult, but "back in the day" LP's were
> usually shipped in boxes of
> 20-30, because the suckers were HEAVY, so 500 copies
> could very well be "boxes of
> them."
> 
> Cheers!
> - Elizabeth
> 
> Jenny Payne wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 10 May 2001, paulmartin.birch wrote:
> > > Would it also be possible to find out from 'who
> or what' give you evidence
> > > to prove this otherwise.
> > > also if u are aware of which shops in America
> have this 12'' for
> > > sale...please drop me their address :o)
> >
> > Well, like Steve C. said, it is hard to tell for
> sure if only 500 were
> > printed.  But here are direct quotes from the
> trading-ring seller's June
> > 99 e-mail:
> >
> >         "I'm not so much a believer of the "only
> 500" legend, since on two
> >         separate occasions (first in 1986 and then
> this year) when
> >         speaking to different band members, I'd
> asked, "So, how many of
> >         these things were floating around,
> really?"  Barson (this year)
> >         seems to recall seeing "boxes of them at
> Stiff"
> >         (and btw, you could have bought these
> promo only critters at the Stiff
> >         office back in 1980, Mr. B related.)
> >
> >         I see them pop up on occasion at record
> stores around the US, so if
> >         you're looking for one, just be patient
> and keep your eyes
> >         peeled."
> >
> > Who knows for sure... but I'd hate to see any of
> our TMMLers get ripped
> > off... so that was my reason for posting.
> >
> > Jenny
> >
> >
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