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Colonel Donn de Grand-Pre
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Colonel says 500 copies of truth about 9/11 were sent to the Joint Chiefs of
Staff and White House

Retired Colonel Donn de Grand-Pre told Alex Jones in an interview last year
about a 72 hour symposium that he conducted in Washington D.C. in September
2001, where he assembled a group of military, commercial, and civilian
pilots to discuss 911 for 3 days. They came up with a 24 page report, which
the colonel submitted to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on
January 23, 2002. The colonel said the chairman made 500 copies and sent
them out to various places including the white house.
The report concluded that the flight crews of the 4 planes on 911 had no
control over their aircrafts. 

Colonel de Grand-Pre said that what happened on 911 was an
administrative coup. The culprits, he said, are part of a neocon group, now
in power in the pentagon, that planned it for years. He said there is a rift
between the pentagon and the military, and that, if it wasn't for the fact
that the government and civilian hierarchy have control over retirements,
there would have been a rebellion by now. The colonel told Alex Jones that
the only way to stop these people is with a counter-coup, where the military
steps in and disengages the civilian hierarchy and takes over and re-runs or
reorganizes the government. The colonel said that the neocons only
understand one ingredient and that is force, and that is why the
counter-coup has to emanate from the military. He said military tribunals
will take over.

Colonel de Grand-pre said that a cruise missile hit the pentagon, and flight
93 was taken out by the North Dakota Air Guard, which was stationed in
Langley, Virginia. He personally knows the pilot, who fired two sidewinder
missiles at the plane, after getting the command from the Adj. General of
the State of North Dakota. The colonel said flight 93 had totally
unconscious people on board. (What nonsense) 
http://suitcaseman.gnn.tv/blogs/3099/Colonel_says_Military_Coup_is_Coming 


Book adds to evidence of 9/11 panel's doubts about Pentagon
USA Today - 5 hours ago
... also raised questions about the effectiveness of the military's
response on 9/11. ... to the 2001 terror attacks that it considered an
investigation into possible ...
Book: Sept. 11 Panel Doubted Officials Washington Post
Book: Sept. 11 panel doubted officials The Kindred Times
Book: 9/11 Panel Considered Pentagon Deceptive NBC
<javascript:ol('http://10.com');> 10.com
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Book: 9/11 Panel Considered Pentagon Deceptive

POSTED: 3:45 pm CDT August 4, 2006
UPDATED: 3:59 pm CDT August 4, 2006

NEW YORK -- The Sept. 11 commission was so frustrated with repeated
misstatements by the Pentagon and Federal Aviation Administration about
their response to the 2001 terror attacks that it considered an
investigation into possible deception, the panel's chairmen say in a new
book. 

Republican Thomas Kean and Democrat Lee Hamilton also say in "Without
Precedent" that their panel was too soft in questioning former New York
Mayor Rudy Giuliani - and that the 20-month investigation may have suffered
for it.

The book, a behind-the-scenes look at the investigation, recounts 
obstacles the authors say were thrown up by the Bush administration,
internal disputes over President Bush's use of the attacks as a reason
for invading Iraq, and the way the final report avoided questioning
whether U.S. policy in the Middle East may have contributed to the
attacks.

Kean and Hamilton said the commission found it mind-boggling that
authorities had asserted during hearings that their air defenses had 
reacted quickly and were prepared to shoot down United Airlines Flight 93,
which appeared headed toward Washington.

In fact, the commission determined - after it subpoenaed audiotapes and
e-mails of the sequence of events - that the shootdown order did not reach
North American Aerospace Command pilots until after all of the hijacked
planes had crashed.

The book states that commission staff, "exceedingly frustrated" by what they
thought could be deception, proposed a full review into why the FAA and the
Pentagon's NORAD had presented inaccurate information. That ultimately could
have led to sanctions. 

Due to a lack of time, the panel ultimately referred the matter to the
inspectors general at the Pentagon and Transportation Department. Both are
preparing reports, spokesmen said this week.

"Fog of war could explain why some people were confused on the day of 9/11,
but it could not explain why all of the after-action reports, 
accident investigations and public testimony by FAA and NORAD officials
advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue," the book states.

Authors: Giuliani Was 'Low Point'

The questioning of Giuliani was considered by Kean and Hamilton "a low
point" in the commission's examination of witnesses during public
hearings. "We did not ask tough questions, nor did we get all of the
information we needed to put on the public record," they wrote.

Commission members backed off, Kean and Hamilton said, after drawing
criticism in newspaper editorials for sharp questioning of New York fire and
police officials at earlier hearings. The editorials said the 
commission was insensitive to the officials' bravery on the day of the
attacks.

"It proved difficult, if not impossible, to raise hard questions about
9/11 in New York without it being perceived as criticism of the 
individual police and firefighters or of Mayor Giuliani," Kean and
Hamilton said.

Congress established the commission in 2002 to investigate government
missteps leading to the Sept. 11 attacks. Its 567-page unanimous report,
which was released in July 2004 and became a national best seller, does not
blame Bush or former President Clinton but does say they failed to make
anti-terrorism a high priority before the attacks.

The panel of five Republicans and five Democrats also concluded that the
Sept. 11 attacks would not be the nation's last, noting that al-Qaida had
tried for at least 10 years to acquire weapons of mass destruction. 

In their book, which goes on sale Aug. 15, Kean and Hamilton recap
obstacles they say the panel faced in putting out a credible report in a
presidential election year, including fights for access to government 
documents and an effort to reach unanimity.

Issues Considered

* Iraq. The commission threatened to splinter over the question of
investigating the administration's use of 9/11 as a reason for going to 
war. The strongest proponent was original member Max Cleland, a
Democratic former senator who later stepped down for separate reasons.

If Cleland had not resigned, the commission probably would not have
reached unanimity, according to the book. Ultimately, commissioners
decided to touch briefly on the Iraq war by concluding there was no
"collaborative relationship" between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida; the
administration had asserted there were substantial contacts between the 
two.

* Israel. The commission disagreed as to how to characterize al-Qaida's
motives for attacking the U.S., with Hamilton arguing that the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the presence of U.S. forces in the 
Middle East were major contributors.

Unidentified members believed that "listing U.S. support for Israel as a
root cause of al-Qaida's opposition to the United States indicated that
the United States should reassess that policy," which those commission 
members did not want.

Ultimately, the panel made a brief statement noting that U.S. policy
regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Iraq are "dominant
staples of popular commentary across the Arab and Muslim world." 

* Access to detainees. The panel pushed for direct access to detainees,
at one point proposing to be at least physically present or to listen by
telephone during interrogations so they could gauge credibility and get 
unvarnished accounts.

The administration resisted, citing concerns about national security.
Officials also said they feared setting a precedent of access by a
nongovernment entity that could undermine the administration's position 
that the Geneva Conventions did not apply to detainees classified as
"enemy combatants."

The commission agreed to submit questions and receive written responses.
Later, allegations emerged of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib and 
Guantanamo Bay that probably played a factor in the government's
resistance, the book states.

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Sat Aug 5 00:04
a.. One More Step to what need to take place! - Patricia Johnson-Holm,
Sun Aug 6 02:51
b.. The White House will not release the report! - Radio Your Way, Sat
Aug 5 00:34

 

 

 

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