robinbowes;562786 Wrote: 
> Agreed. The requirement to update firmware on first connect is a serious
> usability fail from Logitech, in my view.
> 
> R.

Can't really put it into words how strongly I feel about this subject.
It has killed two of the Commercial applications I had worked on for
months when I first found out about the Touch. Granted its only for
1000 to 3000 Touch units which volume wise means nothing to Logitech
but would have meant about 150K to 500K for us.

We did a field test with 5 full setups and its just not worth the
headaches from having to pre-setup or actually do onsite customer
installs with Touch units already connected once for Firmware update
instead of just being able to ship it to the clients (well over 90% of
these installs won't have Internet which is why this Touch local server
setup is perfect for them, but Logitech requires Internet before using
Touch). And then hope the client never has to do a factory reset, those
calls drove us crazy.

How hard would it have been to have the Touch look to see if there was
a local server first with a greater Firmware then was shipped and get
an update from that instead of demanding Internet access? One business
model has servers in the setup that would have been up to date (have
higher firmware to DL then Touch ships with) and would have eliminated
both the Internet requirement issue, having every client have to have
and setup a MySB.com account (hard to do without Internet), resolve the
issue if a client needs to do a factory reset and allow direct shipping
to the client.

Yes, I have found some ways around this but clients don't went to hear
about complicated workarounds that non-technical employees might have
to do. They just want it to work like we demoed it to them all the
time. In hindsight it looks like we would never have been able to get
our hands on 3000 Touch units anyway. Pity, it would have been a fun
project. The really sad thing is, we couldn't do this with Sonos or
another NMP if we wanted to and cost wasn't an issue, they just don't
have any model like the Touch!


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