Goodsounds;575499 Wrote: > You've fallen into the argument abyss of the engineering/analytical > types vs the subjectivists. There's no common ground for discussion, > it's pointless. > > People who calculate and analyze often cannot accept that a measurement > or theoretical difference doesn't necessarily translate into a > perception difference. Often, yes, but not always. People from the > subjective camp don't care about theoretical or measurement > differences, they assess with their ears. Much has been studied about > how the various psychological and perception anomalies in brain > function can contribute to perceived apparent "differences" or > "effects" when none actually exist. > > Personally, I'm from the second group, but I'm happy for the gearheads > to keep the economy moving with large expenditures for things I find > unnecessary. It's otherwise harmless. > > There's room for everyone, so long as you don't try to convert people > from the other side. Very intriguing. I was under the impression that the measurement school more often argue that their measurements demonstrate the absence of a genuine difference resulting from subjectivist endorsed tweaks. Or to put it another way, it is more often subjectivists who argue for expensive gear which objectivists see as doing nothing (or nothing positive). Examples which come to mind from this very forum are the debate about whether a linear psu can make any difference to a digital transport, and the usual wranglings about cables. I accept that it is possible for an objectivist to argue that a difference in measurable performance might justify buying a product that subjectivists see no benefit in, but it rarely comes around that way. I don't reckon that many Nordost Valhalla purchasers are keen measurers. John's position seems to be a rather interesting post-objectivist revisionism which on a number of issues finds measurements which might possibly support subjective impressions that eg cables or linear psus work. However (and I hope I am not misrepresenting John here) he concedes that these measurement differences do not appear to support the thesis that eg changing cables or linear psus will have predictable or even predictably positive effects on any given system.
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