Historically squeezeboxes DHCP implementation has been somewhat fragile
.

And many routers has bugs in this to, so DHCP -can fail- so a solution
that don't use DHCP is -less likely to fail- .
And you shave off some 10 seconds in reconnecting time as it does not
have negotiate for an ip .

That said things seems to have got better, Touch copes fine with dhcp
too, and there is 3rd party router firmware to replace the stock fw
that should sort out that end.

But the overwhelmingly most common problems seems to be that some users
have more than one DCHP running and other configuration mistakes.

And the receiver for example have no gui so you cant figure whats going
on .
The Touch onnthe other hand can tell you whats going on.

But there is no shortcut here even if you  use DHCP and it works
flawlessly, to operate a home network you must learn some basics about
networking and learn something about how your router works and so on.
I don't think networking can be a totally transparent "just works"
thing ever, you must eventually learn something about it.

For Many SB users this is the first time they really have a "network"
previously it only was the PC connected to a mystery box provided by
the ISP. And now it's time to network multiple clients and run a simple
server and -stream continuously- this puts higher demands than
websurfing with a laptop for example. It's can also be a learning curve
re firewalls now you suddenly sending out stuff.

I think the Squeeboxes get unnecessary trashing for this sometimes, you
will get the same problems with other stuff that relies on you network
such as it is to work.

When I got my first SB3 i know absolutely nothing about networks and
servers, but I learned, first i had no router then a hideous shoddy
netgear router that i replaced with an WRT54GL running Tomato. Then I
brigded my dsl modem (to avoid many problems including dual DHCP and
dual NAT  and dual port-forwarding problems) then I chucked dsl and got
real networking instead.

Also I think they should disable the TinySC server, it's very rarely
meets customer expectations , It is good idea to try to market a
standalone server imho Touch is not there it's simply to limited. I'm
perfectly happy with that a standalone server should be somewhat
limited, you cant compete with an 8 core server, but Touch aimed to low
imho. For example everyone knows that bus powered USB drives cheats with
the power specs, practically all of them, so to design the product to
power USB exactly to spec but not much more is a recipe for predictable
failure, this is not rocket science. And 128mB ram ? NAS boxes with that
spec is routinely mocked on this forum ;)

Maybe TinySC could be kept for USB stick only as a guest music playback
system ? but refuse to mount harddrives or large libraries


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Mnyb

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Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and
assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4
Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4
Misc use: Radio (with battery)

PLEASE FIX BUG 112
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112
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