diego wrote: 
> 
> However, will this enable you to restore everything, if for some reason,
> the update servers or whatever is on the internet are not accessible
> through the touch? In particular, Firmware / Kernel, Installed Apps...?
> 
Custom firmware can be installed by connecting the Touch a LMS on a
computer where you have manually put the correct firmware files in the
<Cache>/updates directory. Unless I've missed something the kernel is
part of the firmware.

It's also possible to put firmware on a USB stick and insert in into the
Touch, it will then upgrade/downgrade to the firmware on the USB stick
when it boots.

On the Touch itself, it might be a good idea to backup the contents of
the /etc/squeezeplay and /etc/squeezecenter directores as they contain
all settings which you might want to restore.

I think the list of installed Apps might only be stored on
mysqueezebox.com, but I'm not completely sure. However, most/all? of the
apps are provided through mysqueezebox.com so if Logitech's servers
aren't available they aren't going to work anyway.

diego wrote: 
> 
> What bothers me a bit is, that a factory reset does obviously only
> revert settings and apps back to default, but not the firmware. So what
> if a nightly firmware or an experimental Kernel messes up the touch, so
> that the internal restore tool does not work anymore? How can the thing
> be reinstalled from scratch?
> 
If I remember correctly there are some way which you can force different
kind of resets depending on how long you hold the reset button on the
back of the Touch, but I can't find the information at the moment,
thought it was somewhere on the wiki but I can't find it so if anybody
else knows where it is please let us know.

Of course, if the firmware mess it up really bad so the boot code
executed in the beginning of the startup doesn't work, then it's going
to be hard for you to correct it yourself. But as long as you only load
it with firmware provided by Logitech or Triode I wouldn't worry too
much about this as I know they tests these parts a lot to ensure it
doesn't cause these kind of issues. I'm not saying the firmware is bug
free, I'm just saying that the risk of it containing bugs that makes it
impossible to downgrade/upgrade to another firmware version is really
low.

diego wrote: 
> 
> As far as I understand, this is simply a piece of gear made to live as
> long as Logitech supports it, and one has to live with that. 
> 
Which is basically the same as any other hardware from any other
manufacturer. BIOS upgrades for your computer, operating system upgrades
for your computer, firmware for your router is only updated as long as
the manufacturer supports it. My TV and Receiver comes with the firmware
they have from the factory and there is no easy way to upgrade it at
all. So the Squeezebox isn't much different than any other hardware in
this regard.

The only difference is that the Touch uses the mysqueezebox.com service
for a lot of its "Apps" functionality, and this would be lost if
mysqueezebox.com is shutdown.
If Logitech would shutdown mysqueezebox.com (which I'm sure they will
not do anytime soon), I trust they would still keep the firmware
available, at least for manual download and installation. All this
worries in the forum about Logitech completely shutting down
mysqueezebox.com is very premature, they simply can't do it as long as
they have devices which are within their warranty period, at least not
unless they can offer the customers an alternative solution.

The Touch with it's built-in server or with a LMS running on a computer
will continue to work for locally stored music without mysqueezebox.com,
the only issue is that the stuff in the "My Apps" menu is going to stop
working unless there is a third party plugin available that provides the
same functionality.


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