sgmlaw wrote: 
> It’s all opinion.  But we at my house are now up to over a dozen SB
> clients, and I have had extended intimate listening and underhood time
> with all the major players for well over a decade now: SB3, Touch,
> Receiver, and TP.  While I remain fully committed to the ecosystem, I am
> not a blind fanboy, and am willing to point out the flaws as well.
> 
> The Slimserver/LMS architecture is still the best in my book.  It can
> handle most file formats, has great Internet radio support, and does a
> better overall job than Roon, iTunes or any of the others.  Community
> support and iPeng has kept it current.  It has a broad compatibilty with
> clients of all kinds.  And the formats and sampling rates it does not
> support in my opinion are not meaningfully superior sounding.  96/24
> audio resolution is already better than most systems can fully
> reproduce.  By today’s computing standards it is a very light resource
> footprint, and most of the remaining issues with it are client
> networking ones.  Most machines can host it.  It is close to a universal
> audio streaming app.  And it’s free.  Keep it and its clients in a
> modern ethernet environment, and it is fast and trouble free 99% of the
> time.
> 
> The SB3 is a fair digital front end and an ok player.  It was hampered
> by a cheap and very dirty power supply.  It takes a lot of digital
> reprocessing/reclocking to make it sound good as a digital head end, but
> it is doable.  It is fine for a casual or bedroom system.  But the Touch
> and TP are clearly better machines.
> 
> The Touch is a very good digital head end and a decent player.  Its
> receiver, filtering and conversion sections are good, but its output
> stage is definitely midfi caliber.  As in harmonically thin and tonally
> unnuanced.  At the price point, they did all they could.  But as a
> digital head end feeding a better dac with a good output stage it is
> still a good option for many systems.  Throw on the digital pass-through
> app, and you can play 192khz media through one.  Still not bad for a
> decade old product.  And it still presents a pretty face.  Just picked
> up a clean spare one for $70 last month.
> 
> The TP is an outstanding digital head end and converter section, even by
> today’s standards.  That is where its designers spent the budget.  And
> that is why it was such a measurement champ with the audio rags.  Its
> failing is a mediocre (but not bad) analog output stage.  Just not up to
> snuff with the big boys.  The analog stage is where the big bucks go in
> better audio equipment.  High quality output stages are expensive.  And
> that is why you can now pick up OEM TPs for under $400.  It is overall
> still a very good player.  But as the digital head end to a really
> first-class DAC with a serious output stage, the TP is as good as
> anything out there even today.  It is capped at 96/24 and stumbles on
> some FLAC codings.  But as I said, the differences going to higher
> sampling rates or to DSD are not all that meaningful.  I have one
> feeding a fairly expensive two-chassis DAC in what could be termed a
> high end system.  And the TP in that role has yet to be unseated by a
> series of more recent higher end clients in repeated auditions.  It is
> still that good.
> 
> That’s my opinion and YMMV.

Now, you got me change my direction, maybe????:)

Is the Transporter noticeably better than the SBT? I mean both while
being used with an external DAC, as a digital transport ONLY. 

The only thing is lacking USB which is not a huge deal.


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