On 01/10/2013 02:25:13 PM, Felix Janda wrote:
On 01/02/13 at 12:41am, Rob Landley wrote:
> What I did was disable #3 in the case where cwd doesn't exist. So the
> new rule #3 is:
>
> 3) If cwd exists and $PWD doesn't point to it, fall back to -P.

Thanks for the clarification.

Your version of 3) depends on whether pwd is builtin or not. Do you mean
something like "If getcwd() fails ..."?

cwd is what getcwd() returns. $PWD is an environment variable.

> > BTW, in the case that one has deleted and recreated one's current
> > working
> > directory one could also use "cd ." to get to the new directory.
>
> Good to know. (This means the shell is special casing "." as well as
> "..". I need to read the susv4 shell stuff thoroughly, it's been
> years...)

The susv4 page special cases "." and ".." a bit, but it seems to me only in the $CDPATH handling. Ah, I see that you don't care about $CDPATH from
the about page.

$CDPATH and $PWD are separate.

Then I think one can leave out step 5 on susv4's page on
cd, and "cd ." is no more special than "cd dir"; it does a chdir to "$PWD/." or "$PWD/dir" respectively and then updates $PWD to its canonical form. (and
modifies $OLDPWD also if necessary)

Um, steps 4 and 8 are the ones that say cd . and .. are special?

Another interesting situation is if your current directory "/dir" has been moved to "/olddir" and say "/dir" has been recreated. Then "cd ." will move you to new directory whereas "cd $(pwd -P)" will preserve your cwd and fix up
$PWD. (at least for a shell behaving posixly correct)

Preserving the cwd is what I wanted to do, yes.

Imagine the same situation but with "/dir" not being recreated after being moved. Then "cd ." should fail according to susv4 since "$PWD/." = "/dir/.",
which does not exist. Would you like to have "cd ." behave the same as
"cd $(pwd)" in this case? Bash does this if not in POSIX mode. Busybox ash
doesn't do this and for some reason even "cd $(pwd)" fails.

I want the great mass of existing shell scripts to work, which means reproducing historical behavior. Posix is (mostly) a reasonable consensus documentation of historical behavior.

Felix

Rob
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