On 04/03/2013 09:05:26 AM, Bastian Bittorf wrote:
it needed some days to find the right arguments, but i try to make it
short:
dont implement 'ifconfig'.
I didn't. A third party submitted it, because they use it. Nobody's
ever bothered to submit "ip".
it's totally obsolete since nearly 10 years. nobody uses it anymore,
*shrug* I use it. So did the people who submitted their implementation
of it. It's in the $PATH on ubuntu LTS without me having to install a
package to get it.
Could you be a bit more specific about what's wrong with it? So far
you've said "ew", which isn't really an argument.
even the manpage of 'ifconfig' shows this in
big letters, it's so much restricted and doesnt know much about
networking,
Are you saying it's simple and minimal, just enough to get the job done?
This is a bad thing?
it's a relict if the 1990's and must die.
Um, "cat" and "ls" are relics of the 1970's, are they on the hit list
too?
better make a stub of 'ip' and implement:
ip link add/del/show
ip address add/del/show
ip route add/del/show
ip neigh add/del/show
What can you do with ip that you can't do with ifconfig/route?
ifconfig is so fundamentally wrong in architecture, thats
not worth the work.
I didn't do the work. I need to do the _cleanup_ work, but that tends
to be true of most external submissions. (I'm picky. I'm also
apparently unusually good at the programming equivalent of haiku.)
for greybeards you can add a wrapper
which translates every call to ifconfig/route/arp with a
stderr output of "deprecated: use 'ip address show blabla...'".
I was planning on simplifying the underlying infrastructure rather a
lot, yes.
sorry for the hard words, but someone must say it 8-)
Why must someone say it? Neither is specified by Posix _or_ LSB. (I'd
very much like it if somebody could point me to a standard for this
crud. The closest I've got is man pages.)
I'm willing to be convinced, but that wasn't it.
Rob
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