On 01/28/2015 06:46 AM, Daniel Cegiełka wrote:
> 2015-01-28 4:51 GMT+01:00 Rob Landley <[email protected]>:
>>
>> (Did I mention computer history is a hobby of mine?)
>>
>>> Rich
>>
>> Rob
>>
> 
> Rob, you're famous :)
> 
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8958591

Why do these things always go viral when it's off the top of my head at
3am and I didn't check my references?

(I'm reminded of when hacker monthly asked to reprint
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3519952 and I went "let me correct
the model numbers and sizes and add footnotes citing the original
sources", resulting in
http://www.landley.net/writing/hackermonthly-issue022-pg33.pdf ...)

I've already received email from Larry McVoy pointing out I got the
Solaris dates a few years early. (So Ed Zander's unbundling campaign was
based on SunOS? Alas that's something I _haven't_ found decent primary
references for, although Eric Raymond, Peter Salus, at at least one
other person have described it to me from personal experience, and I
took notes but they're packed too...)

(I hate it when I google for a reference and the first few hits are
_me_, ala https://lwn.net/Articles/227367/. That's not useful.)

Aha! The Demon, the Gnu, and the Penguin. Chapter 10 of the original
online version, anyway, mentions this:

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050525231654621

(I talked to that book's author about it in the green room at the last
Atlanta Linux Showcase (the one in California) in 2001, but it's nice he
wrote it down somewhere I can cite it. Peter used to be the executive
directory of the Sun User Group, as well as running Usenix and being a
vice president at the FSF back in the 1980's, _and_ he's the author of A
Quarter Century of Unix. So he's an excellent source, although I
confirmed it with a few other people. (Darn it, I should have asked Doug
McIllroy about this at that dinner at Ohio LinuxFest for the 40th
anniversary of unix...)

Now if Peter had just given _dates_ and cited some Sun marketing
materials about it or something. Maybe that's in the print version.
(Packed! In a box! There was a flood back in like August! We hired
people to drill holes in our walls, on purpose!)

Anyway, I've got to get back to adding icache flushing support in this
sh2 kernel port...

> Daniel

Rob
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