On Jul 28, 2009, at 3:44 PM, Christian Boos wrote:

>
> Leonardo Santagada wrote:
>> How can I help with the SQLAlchemy port? Is it scheduled for any
>> particular Trac version or even been discussed about including it in
>> trunk?
>
> That port was proposed several times, but it's still not obvious yet  
> if
> this will bring any improvement to the current situation. It's a lot  
> of
> work to do the conversion. So this is a kind of chicken-egg situation:
> it's not really possible to commit ourselves to do the switch without
> knowing more about the impact it would have, it's hard for someone to
> invest time on this knowing that all that work can eventually be  
> thrown
> away...
>
> Put it differently: what do you expect from this switch?

I answered that on another email (just seconds ago) but the idea is  
better and easier interoperability with other databases and better  
support for pooling is a start. For the future, being able to extend  
trac by extending the models directly more like Roundup than by ticket- 
custom seems interesting. One example would be how easy it would be to  
express that the values of a combo on the ticket come from SQLAlchemy.

>> And what about account manager/ldap support?
>>
>
> John started an integration effort, the last changeset says:
>
>  Initial merge working. Removal of registration and email verification
> needed. Lots of other cleanup needed
>
> So I guess that's a start ;-)
> See http://trac.edgewall.org/log/sandbox/accountmanager

Cool I will look at that branch.

>> Those are to me the two things that bug me about trac  (besides
>> multiple repos that are being worked on and some cosmetic changes
>> regarding the UI).
>>
>
> #2086 is certainly one of the most anticipated feature, it's  
> progressing
> well, though we're not there yet. Testing and feedback welcomed ;-)
> About the cosmetic changes, they count as real tickets as well. We're
> definitely in need for some CSS expertise and there are lots of
> usability and layout tickets awaiting contributors, don't hesitate to
> help there as well.


This is what I'm really interested in Usability both of trac itself  
but also of the API for people extending it. Sometimes I find it a  
little hard to find what is the best way to extend trac, and the users  
of my deployment (+/- 200 employees) find trac confusing to use at  
parts (specially the query/reports part).

I will look at tickets and see if I can find a place to start :).  
Thanks a lot for answering my mail.

--
Leonardo Santagada
santagada at gmail.com




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