On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:24 PM, osimons <oddsim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It may just be ignored, of course... :-) Jokes aside, I'd be careful
> to put too much of this into Trac as it is not a core feature. Nice-to-
> have stuff for developers should really not be the primary focus -

This is scary. Google App Engine is so popular, because it has nice
stuff for developers. If Trac had better dev. tools - it could have
bigger adoption and better coverage in blogs and more patches landing
on t.e.o. Needless to say that with proper tools trac-hacks would have
been already migrated to at least 0.11

> certainly when many decent alternatives exists. Most notably in the
> form of Wsgi middleware solutions from various libraries (like
> werkzeug) and standalone scripts.

That makes Trac half-baked product that you must cook before use. The
abundance of installation recipes always was a annoyance for me. It is
good to have diversity, but the drawback of this is that you must be a
very advanced user and know all technologies to make the right choice.
You may, of course, just randomly choose some solution and follow
that, but tech-savvy people usually don't welcome that approach.

> Personally I use apache/mod_wsgi a lot for development, and have a
> custom .wsgi script using the monitoring described on this page:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/ReloadingSourceCode
>
> That way I can for instance add easy-install.pth to the file list to
> be monitored, so that whenever i install or update any plugins, the
> deamon process restarts itself and loads the new code.

mod_wsgi rocks, but its an Apache-only solution, which is not trendy
at the moment. Why waste time for Apache/mod_wsgi config when there
are plenty of Python-based servers that work out of the box. Apache is
an overkill for occasional plugin development.

-- 
anatoly t.

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