On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Steffen Hoffmann <hoff...@web.de> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > anatoly techtonik wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:24 PM, osimons <oddsim...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> It may just be ignored, of course... :-) Jokes aside, I'd be careful >>> to put too much of this into Trac as it is not a core feature. Nice-to- >>> have stuff for developers should really not be the primary focus - >> >> This is scary. Google App Engine is so popular, because it has nice >> stuff for developers. If Trac had better dev. tools - it could have >> bigger adoption and better coverage in blogs and more patches landing >> on t.e.o. Needless to say that with proper tools trac-hacks would have >> been already migrated to at least 0.11 > > Not quite comparable in my eyes, but I do understand your call for a > more feature-full yet easier to install default distribution.
Not really for a distribution, but modifications in both Trac core and plugins that will make plugin development and troubleshooting easier. For example, monitoring how many handlers there are registered for some extension points, do they alter execution flow for specific requests or not, an ability to be admin or user right out of the box in development mode. > Anyway I have reason to guess, all this is not as strongly related to > Trac-Hacks.org still being on 0.10 as you suggest here, just another story. The complexity of porting plugins is the primary reason, and this complexity can only be reduced with development tools and documentation. > on the matter. Of course not guaranteed to happen, since this is not > about democracy here, but as I've seen before a good and well-thought > reasonable plan backed "by real code"(TM;-) is almost appreciated. Auto-reload fix is backed up "by real code", so for the start it would be nice to get it into "the next release" (TM;-) >> mod_wsgi rocks, but its an Apache-only solution, which is not trendy >> at the moment. Why waste time for Apache/mod_wsgi config when there >> are plenty of Python-based servers that work out of the box. Apache is >> an overkill for occasional plugin development. > > So this is mod_fcgi, or what else? Sorry, I'm not remotely an expert in > that field, so would value, if you'd not speak clearer here and just > name it, thanks. The best server for Trac plugin development is... > python -m trac.web.standalone . -p 8088 --auto-reload --single-env > python -m webbrowser http://localhost:8088 -- anatoly t. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Development" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-dev?hl=en.