Hey Dan,

I see your timeandestimation plugin has version 1.6.1 so I guess it's work
you done? Is the code accessible somewhere?

Cheers

Markus

Dan <dan.m...@digidescorp.com> schrieb am Fr., 5. Mai 2023, 20:39:

> Just to throw in my two cents ... Here is a list of plugins we've been
> running on our 1.5.4dev under Ubuntu 22.04.  It looks like it's been about
> a year running in a production environment, since most of the files have a
> May 2022 date:
>
> Acronym.py
> AllTicketsTableMacro-1.0-py3.10.egg
> Blog.py
> Cards-1.4-py3.10.egg
> FlatTableProcessor.py
> FoldMacro.py
> ImportExportXLS-0.3-py3.10.egg
> PackingSlipDownloadPlugin-1.0.3.1-py3.10.egg
> PlannedMilestones.py
> TicketReminderPlugin-0.2.2-py3.10.egg
> TicketValidation-0.0.4.dev0-py3.10.egg
> timingandestimationplugin-1.6.1-py3.10.egg
> TracAccountManager-0.6.dev0-py3.10.egg
> TracCcSelector-0.2.1-py3.10.egg
> TracChildTickets-2.6.0.dev0-py3.10.egg
> TracDragDrop-0.12.0.16-py3.10.egg
> TracFootNoteMacro-1.6.1-py3.10.egg
> TracHtmlNotificationPlugin-0.12.0.2-py3.10.egg
> TracMovieMacro-0.3-py3.10.egg
> TracMultiSelectField-1.0.4.dev0-py3.10.egg
> TracTicketChat-1.1-py3.10.egg
> TracWikiAutoComplete-1.4-py3.10.egg
> TracWikiCalendarMacro-2.2.0.dev0-py3.10.egg
> TracWikiExtras-1.3.2.dev0-py3.10.egg
> TracWysiwyg-0.12.0.7-py3.10.egg
> WikiInclude.py
>
> Some of them are obsolete but we keep them around for sentimental (and
> backward compatibility) reasons.  Also, a couple are custom made (not
> publicly available), and some may have local edits by me (though I usually
> try to upload patches when I make changes).
>
> My company has been using Trac since about 2006 (version 0.9?) and we have
> over 250 individual projects, though only a handful are active.
>
> - Dan
>
> On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 11:30:37 AM UTC-5 Markus Rosjat wrote:
>
>> hi manuel,
>>
>>
>>
>> Am Fr., 5. Mai 2023 um 17:50 Uhr schrieb Manuel Bilderbeek <
>> manuel.bild...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yes, I realize that they require Python 3. This would be available in a
>>> modern Ubuntu after upgrading.
>>> Good point about the plug-ins. I guess I'll have to check whether all
>>> the currently used plugins have been upgraded to Python 3. (The ones
>>> packaged/available in Ubuntu will have been, of course.)
>>>
>>>
>> regurading the plugins, as far as i know the plugins are not provided by
>> the OS distribution. You either get them from trac-hacks.org or if
>> someone made a pypi package you pip install it from there.
>> And here comes your problem, you need to test those ;)
>>
>> what i can confirm is that there are plugins working on my 1.5.4 test
>> instance for the following plugins
>>
>> AccountManager
>> TimeandEstimation
>> TracTags
>> TracNav (works from the pipy package)
>> WikiForms (but thats something i just fixed for the sake of having it
>> ported in my instance, i didnt checked if someone is working on that code)
>>
>> Apart from that: what's the risk of using Trac 1.5? Are there serious
>>> regressions that I should be aware of? So, what makes it unstable and
>>> possibly not good for production use?
>>>
>>>
>> Op zaterdag 29 april 2023 om 04:13:13 UTC+2 schreef OSP Hathaway:
>>>
>>>> Trac 1.5.+ requires Python > 3.5. All plug-ins also need upgrade to a
>>>> compatible Python version.
>>>> Steve Hathaway
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 6:12 AM Manuel Bilderbeek <
>>>> manuel.bild...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that is probably possible, I'll look into it. Actually, I think I
>>>>> could then just uninstall the Ubuntu trac package and manually install the
>>>>> Trac 1.2.6 outside Ubuntu's package management as well. But I'd prefer to
>>>>> keep thing simple, i.e. managed by the distro package system as much as
>>>>> possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems a bit silly that Ubuntu put the 1.2 (.0?) in their 18.02 LTS
>>>>> and never updated it as updates to 1.2 were released by the trac project.
>>>>> If someone is willing to backport trac 1.2.6 to Ubuntu 18.02 LTS and
>>>>> release that with the Ubuntu maintainers, it would be great. If anyone
>>>>> reading this is interested to make that happen: depending on the price, my
>>>>> company is willing to financially sponsor that. (Feel free to contact me
>>>>> about that.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Still interested in a statement about the status of 1.5.3 or 1.5.4
>>>>> regarding stability in production use. How bad (or good!) is it?
>>>>> If it's good enough to just use, I can just upgrade to the latest
>>>>> Unbuntu LTS or 23.04 release (much better than using a 5 year old distro).
>>>>> I fully understand that no one is willing to give any guarantees or make
>>>>> promises, but a rough idea on what I can expect would be good to have. 
>>>>> Then
>>>>> we could decide whether we would want to try it or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for all your input.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Manuel Bilderbeek
>>>>>
>>>>> Op woensdag 19 april 2023 om 08:12:32 UTC+2 schreef Jun Omae:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2023/04/17 17:55, Manuel Bilderbeek wrote:
>>>>>> > OK, thanks a lot for the response. Unfortunately, the policy is to
>>>>>> use the available Ubuntu packages only. And in Ubuntu bionic (18.04 LTS)
>>>>>> apparently only plain 1.2 is available. The next available version seems 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be 1.5.3 (in 22.04 LTS) or 1.5.4 (in the latest release), but I read on 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Trac website that the 1.5 series are not considered stable. So upgrading 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> a newer Ubuntu version will get us a Trac 1.5 which is apparently not
>>>>>> considered stable for production...
>>>>>> > I'm therefore in a squeeze. Looks like I have to wait until a Trac
>>>>>> 1.6 is available in a new Ubuntu release. Or am I missing something?
>>>>>> > (Is 1.5.3 or 1.5.4 perhaps more stable than indicated?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about creating new virtualenv and install Trac 1.2.6 and plugins
>>>>>> to the virtualenv, rather than the Trac package in the distribution?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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