While I'm waiting for a return email from Scott, Does anyone think that I could 
open up one of these GTRANS cables and convert into an FMI cable or is it more 
complex than that?

Regards,

-Frank C.

On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Frank Christ wrote:

> Alright thanks to all!  The Nuvi has plenty of power from the cradle itself, 
> when I remove the GPS from the cradle WITHOUT the GTRANS cable attached I get 
> the "lost power" message. So apparently I had the right cable just not the 
> right one for FMI. Time to get in touch with Scott.
> 
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Frank C.
> 
> On Jul 16, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Randy Love wrote:
> 
>>  
>> Well, the GTRANS isn't just for the D700/D710/D7 ( as Frank has proven. :)
>> 
>> Frank,
>> 
>> If you don't want or need the messaging capability ( only available with the 
>> FMI activated ), then you can get by nicely with the GTRANS cable and Nuvi. 
>> Main things you will be missing are 2-way messaging and commanding of the 
>> OT2m via the Nuvi. It will, however, still display received stations on the 
>> map *IF* you enable waypoints by setting them on in the OT2m config program. 
>> The only problem with this is that all objects/stations/whatever will show 
>> as an ambiguous dot on the maps, but will be tagged with the call/name 
>> received in the packets. They should show up in your Favorites list also.
>> 
>> If you want all the goodies that the OT2m has to offer, you will need to get 
>> the other cables.
>> The one that has 10813 in the Garmin part number. As a side note, if you 
>> decide you don't want the GTRANS cable, you shouldn't have any trouble 
>> selling them here on list or *sigh* EBay. 
>> 
>> 73,
>> Randy
>> WF5X
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Patrick <[email protected]> wrote:
>>  
>> It is..  Though with the GTRANS cable, if you put your GPS port into Auto 
>> mode (or nema mode) you will have it work..  Do note however that the gps 
>> will not go into FMI mode with a GTRANS cable.
>> 
>> p
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/16/2010 2:32 AM, Frank Christ wrote:
>>> 
>>> I ate dinner, took the equipment out of the vehicle and hooked it up in my 
>>> shack to a Pyramid PS-21KX power supply, put a fixed position on the thing 
>>> and hooked up the antenna, then....Beacons away! So I have no clue what the 
>>> "special" trick was to get it to work. Tomorrow I'm going to put it back in 
>>> the vehicle and see if it still spits out beacons....
>>> 
>>> Meanwhile, that link I posted earlier...That is indeed the correct cable?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> -Frank C.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:26 PM, k7ybz wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Remember, whatever you learn could help someone in the future. Please 
>>>> share the wealth.
>>>> 
>>>> Larry
>>>> K7YBZ
>>>> 
>>>> --- In [email protected], "Frank C." <fchri...@...> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Just a slight improvement tonight. The OT2m and radio finally worked and 
>>>> > I got myself on the map with a fixed position about 2 hours North of me. 
>>>> > A local ham gave me the idea.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Now to get the Nüvi to play nice...
>>>> > 
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > 
>>>> > -Frank C.
>>>> > 
>>>> > On Jul 15, 2010, at 19:53, Randy Love <rlov...@...> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > Well, Frank. donno what else either.
>>>> > 
>>>> > You have tried powering the OT2m first, then the Nuvi, several times, 
>>>> > powering off and back on each on every attempt, correct?
>>>> > I seem to remember having to do that sequence so the the OT2m would 
>>>> > sense the Nuvi and put it into FMI mode.
>>>> > 
>>>> > I have 3 Nuvi/OT2m/T2-135 combos. Aside from double checking the 
>>>> > pinouts, don't know what else to tell you.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Now, let's make sure of couple of things:
>>>> > 
>>>> > 1) you are using the Garmin Data Cable for the Nuvi 350, the one with 
>>>> > 00813 in the part number, correct?
>>>> > 2) you are using an OT2m (external to the radio), not a T2-135 placed 
>>>> > inside an Alinco DR-?35T, correct?
>>>> > 
>>>> > If you answered no to 1, and you aren't using a Nuvi 350 ( or similar ), 
>>>> > then you possibly have the wrong FMI cable.
>>>> > 
>>>> > If you answered no to 2, then double check the wiring on the DB9 
>>>> > connector. Pins 2 and 3 are REVERSED between the T2-135 setup and the 
>>>> > OT2m setup. In either case, you can easily reverse the pins to see if 
>>>> > that fixes it by putting a null modem adapter between the OT2m and the 
>>>> > Nuvi. If the pins are incorrectly wired, it won't hurt anything as they 
>>>> > are low level data signals.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Quickly running out of suggests, but having 2 bad FMI cables is very 
>>>> > unlikely.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Gotta finish a couple of other items here for an MS150 Bike event this 
>>>> > weekend.
>>>> > 
>>>> > 73,
>>>> > Randy
>>>> > WF5X
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Frank C. <fchri...@...> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > Thanks. I have two cables from Scott and neither work. The radio keys up 
>>>> > just fine but no transmitted signal from the OT2m 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > 
>>>> > -Frank C.
>>>> > 
>>>> > On Jul 15, 2010, at 16:22, "k7ybz" <k7...@...> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Frank,
>>>> > 
>>>> > Sorry, but I am out of idearrrsss. What I gave you is what I do to check 
>>>> > my setups. I have four Nuvi 350/OT2 combos plus GTRANS cables for that 
>>>> > occasional D710/NUVI combo, depending on what I need for those rushed 
>>>> > support activities, like Cycle Oregon or some other in which I have to 
>>>> > have a quick install in a 15 passenger rental van or the like. I am in 
>>>> > the middle of getting things ready for an event this weekend.
>>>> > 
>>>> > If you know someone in your neck of the woods who has a similar setup, 
>>>> > you can try swapping equipment and cables until you find the answer. 
>>>> > Otherwise have Scott at Argent Data take a look. Scott usually chimes in 
>>>> > when he is not playing with ballons.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Now that I think about it, I did have a DOA FMI cable that came from 
>>>> > Garmin via Argent Data. I already had a spare and put it to use 
>>>> > immediately. I wanted to see what the bump was all about so took the DOA 
>>>> > one apart. That reminds me too, I should order another one to have as a 
>>>> > spare.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Good luck,
>>>> > 
>>>> > Larry
>>>> > K7YBZ
>>>> > 
>>>> > I will be flying tomorrow and have APRS in the plane. Check K7YBZ-11.
>>>> > 
>>>> > --- In [email protected], "Frank C." <fchrist2@> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Not sure what else to do. I thought, based off reading, that this was 
>>>> > > more plug n play. Seems the tracker2 doesn't auto-key?...
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Regards,
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > -Frank C.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > On Jul 15, 2010, at 14:56, "Frank C." <fchrist2@> wrote:
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Larry,
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Yes to the Nüvi being powered via the cradle and the FMI in the 
>>>> > > side. The Nüvi has complete coverage as far as I can tell. It gives 
>>>> > > me 26' accuracy.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > As for the OT2m the activity light is solid green.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Any other ideas?
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Regards,
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > -Frank C.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > On Jul 15, 2010, at 14:33, "k7ybz" <k7ybz@> wrote:
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Not true on the firmware. FMI was supported nearly the entire OT2 
>>>> > > production and well before 54740 dated Aug 2008. However, having the 
>>>> > > latest firmware installed in the OT2 is still a good idea.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Frank,
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Just to make sure....
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > FMI usb end plugged into the NUVI 350 SIDE connector.
>>>> > > Power supplied from the cradle to the rear connector. (I know you said 
>>>> > > yes to this, but another confirmation)
>>>> > > I concur that the NUVI should be plugged into the B side of the OT2 
>>>> > > and BMODE set to Garmin. Be sure to set AMODE to AUTO or someting 
>>>> > > other than GARMIN otherwise it "could" have unpredictable results.
>>>> > > Obiously, the OT2 needs it own power.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > One solution has been to power up the Nuvi first and leave the OT2 
>>>> > > unpowered until the NUVI has aquired a position, then turn on the OT2.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > If the OT2 activity light is blinking green about one flash per 
>>>> > > second, it is receiving GPS data. If the activity light is red, then 
>>>> > > there are problems. A caveat to that is that LED will be red until a 
>>>> > > valid GPS signal is received but that should not last more than two or 
>>>> > > three minutes depending on how long the NUVI has been off (I am 
>>>> > > talking several days to weeks here). The NUVI has to aquire one 
>>>> > > satelite before it can update its database on the other satelites.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > There is no way to run a continuity check on the FMI cable since that 
>>>> > > bump near the mini-b connector end is the level shifter. You would 
>>>> > > have to take the DE-9 connector apart and check the wiring, at least 
>>>> > > check that the colored wires are going to the correct pins. Other than 
>>>> > > that, you might have to send everything back to Scott and have him 
>>>> > > check it out for you.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Larry 
>>>> > > K7YBZ
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > --- In [email protected], Randy Love <rlove31@> wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Frank C. <fchrist2@> wrote:
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > On the Tracker2 i have firmware build 55076 and the Nüvi is 
>>>> > > > > version
>>>> > > > > 6.20...If that helps at all. Right now I have the vehicle half 
>>>> > > > > torn apart so
>>>> > > > > everything can be in one little area.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > I think that firmware isn't new enough to support the FMI cable.
>>>> > > > Try updating to the latest firmware and try again.
>>>> > > > 
>>>> > > > 73,
>>>> > > > Randy
>>>> > > > WF5X
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> 
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