Thanks Gary!

Regards,

-Frank C.

On Jul 16, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Gary Holderbein wrote:

> On 7/16/2010 11:46 AM, Frank Christ wrote:
> 
>>  
>> While I'm waiting for a return email from Scott, Does anyone think that I 
>> could open up one of these GTRANS cables and convert into an FMI cable or is 
>> it more complex than that?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> -Frank C.
>> 
>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Frank Christ wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> Alright thanks to all!  The Nuvi has plenty of power from the cradle 
>>> itself, when I remove the GPS from the cradle WITHOUT the GTRANS cable 
>>> attached I get the "lost power" message. So apparently I had the right 
>>> cable just not the right one for FMI. Time to get in touch with Scott.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks again!
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> -Frank C.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Randy Love wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Well, the GTRANS isn't just for the D700/D710/D7 ( as Frank has proven. :)
>>>> 
>>>> Frank,
>>>> 
>>>> If you don't want or need the messaging capability ( only available with 
>>>> the FMI activated ), then you can get by nicely with the GTRANS cable and 
>>>> Nuvi. Main things you will be missing are 2-way messaging and commanding 
>>>> of the OT2m via the Nuvi. It will, however, still display received 
>>>> stations on the map *IF* you enable waypoints by setting them on in the 
>>>> OT2m config program. The only problem with this is that all 
>>>> objects/stations/whatever will show as an ambiguous dot on the maps, but 
>>>> will be tagged with the call/name received in the packets. They should 
>>>> show up in your Favorites list also.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want all the goodies that the OT2m has to offer, you will need to 
>>>> get the other cables.
>>>> The one that has 10813 in the Garmin part number. As a side note, if you 
>>>> decide you don't want the GTRANS cable, you shouldn't have any trouble 
>>>> selling them here on list or *sigh* EBay. 
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Randy
>>>> WF5X
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Patrick <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> It is..  Though with the GTRANS cable, if you put your GPS port into Auto 
>>>> mode (or nema mode) you will have it work..  Do note however that the gps 
>>>> will not go into FMI mode with a GTRANS cable.
>>>> 
>>>> p
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/16/2010 2:32 AM, Frank Christ wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I ate dinner, took the equipment out of the vehicle and hooked it up in 
>>>>> my shack to a Pyramid PS-21KX power supply, put a fixed position on the 
>>>>> thing and hooked up the antenna, then....Beacons away! So I have no clue 
>>>>> what the "special" trick was to get it to work. Tomorrow I'm going to put 
>>>>> it back in the vehicle and see if it still spits out beacons....
>>>>> 
>>>>> Meanwhile, that link I posted earlier...That is indeed the correct cable?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Frank C.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:26 PM, k7ybz wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Remember, whatever you learn could help someone in the future. Please 
>>>>>> share the wealth.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>> K7YBZ
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --- In [email protected], "Frank C." <fchri...@...> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Just a slight improvement tonight. The OT2m and radio finally worked 
>>>>>> > and I got myself on the map with a fixed position about 2 hours North 
>>>>>> > of me. A local ham gave me the idea.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Now to get the Nüvi to play nice...
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > -Frank C.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > On Jul 15, 2010, at 19:53, Randy Love <rlov...@...> wrote:
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Well, Frank. donno what else either.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > You have tried powering the OT2m first, then the Nuvi, several times, 
>>>>>> > powering off and back on each on every attempt, correct?
>>>>>> > I seem to remember having to do that sequence so the the OT2m would 
>>>>>> > sense the Nuvi and put it into FMI mode.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > I have 3 Nuvi/OT2m/T2-135 combos. Aside from double checking the 
>>>>>> > pinouts, don't know what else to tell you.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Now, let's make sure of couple of things:
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > 1) you are using the Garmin Data Cable for the Nuvi 350, the one with 
>>>>>> > 00813 in the part number, correct?
>>>>>> > 2) you are using an OT2m (external to the radio), not a T2-135 placed 
>>>>>> > inside an Alinco DR-?35T, correct?
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > If you answered no to 1, and you aren't using a Nuvi 350 ( or similar 
>>>>>> > ), then you possibly have the wrong FMI cable.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > If you answered no to 2, then double check the wiring on the DB9 
>>>>>> > connector. Pins 2 and 3 are REVERSED between the T2-135 setup and the 
>>>>>> > OT2m setup. In either case, you can easily reverse the pins to see if 
>>>>>> > that fixes it by putting a null modem adapter between the OT2m and the 
>>>>>> > Nuvi. If the pins are incorrectly wired, it won't hurt anything as 
>>>>>> > they are low level data signals.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Quickly running out of suggests, but having 2 bad FMI cables is very 
>>>>>> > unlikely.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Gotta finish a couple of other items here for an MS150 Bike event this 
>>>>>> > weekend.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > 73,
>>>>>> > Randy
>>>>>> > WF5X
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Frank C. <fchri...@...> wrote:
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Thanks. I have two cables from Scott and neither work. The radio keys 
>>>>>> > up just fine but no transmitted signal from the OT2m 
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > -Frank C.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > On Jul 15, 2010, at 16:22, "k7ybz" <k7...@...> wrote:
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Frank,
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Sorry, but I am out of idearrrsss. What I gave you is what I do to 
>>>>>> > check my setups. I have four Nuvi 350/OT2 combos plus GTRANS cables 
>>>>>> > for that occasional D710/NUVI combo, depending on what I need for 
>>>>>> > those rushed support activities, like Cycle Oregon or some other in 
>>>>>> > which I have to have a quick install in a 15 passenger rental van or 
>>>>>> > the like. I am in the middle of getting things ready for an event this 
>>>>>> > weekend.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > If you know someone in your neck of the woods who has a similar setup, 
>>>>>> > you can try swapping equipment and cables until you find the answer. 
>>>>>> > Otherwise have Scott at Argent Data take a look. Scott usually chimes 
>>>>>> > in when he is not playing with ballons.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Now that I think about it, I did have a DOA FMI cable that came from 
>>>>>> > Garmin via Argent Data. I already had a spare and put it to use 
>>>>>> > immediately. I wanted to see what the bump was all about so took the 
>>>>>> > DOA one apart. That reminds me too, I should order another one to have 
>>>>>> > as a spare.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Good luck,
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Larry
>>>>>> > K7YBZ
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > I will be flying tomorrow and have APRS in the plane. Check K7YBZ-11.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > --- In [email protected], "Frank C." <fchrist2@> wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Not sure what else to do. I thought, based off reading, that this 
>>>>>> > > was more plug n play. Seems the tracker2 doesn't auto-key?...
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > Regards,
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > -Frank C.
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > On Jul 15, 2010, at 14:56, "Frank C." <fchrist2@> wrote:
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > Larry,
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > Yes to the Nüvi being powered via the cradle and the FMI in the 
>>>>>> > > side. The Nüvi has complete coverage as far as I can tell. It 
>>>>>> > > gives me 26' accuracy.
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > As for the OT2m the activity light is solid green.
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > Any other ideas?
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > Regards,
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > -Frank C.
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > On Jul 15, 2010, at 14:33, "k7ybz" <k7ybz@> wrote:
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > Not true on the firmware. FMI was supported nearly the entire OT2 
>>>>>> > > production and well before 54740 dated Aug 2008. However, having the 
>>>>>> > > latest firmware installed in the OT2 is still a good idea.
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > Frank,
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > Just to make sure....
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > FMI usb end plugged into the NUVI 350 SIDE connector.
>>>>>> > > Power supplied from the cradle to the rear connector. (I know you 
>>>>>> > > said yes to this, but another confirmation)
>>>>>> > > I concur that the NUVI should be plugged into the B side of the OT2 
>>>>>> > > and BMODE set to Garmin. Be sure to set AMODE to AUTO or someting 
>>>>>> > > other than GARMIN otherwise it "could" have unpredictable results.
>>>>>> > > Obiously, the OT2 needs it own power.
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > One solution has been to power up the Nuvi first and leave the OT2 
>>>>>> > > unpowered until the NUVI has aquired a position, then turn on the 
>>>>>> > > OT2.
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > If the OT2 activity light is blinking green about one flash per 
>>>>>> > > second, it is receiving GPS data. If the activity light is red, then 
>>>>>> > > there are problems. A caveat to that is that LED will be red until a 
>>>>>> > > valid GPS signal is received but that should not last more than two 
>>>>>> > > or three minutes depending on how long the NUVI has been off (I am 
>>>>>> > > talking several days to weeks here). The NUVI has to aquire one 
>>>>>> > > satelite before it can update its database on the other satelites.
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > There is no way to run a continuity check on the FMI cable since 
>>>>>> > > that bump near the mini-b connector end is the level shifter. You 
>>>>>> > > would have to take the DE-9 connector apart and check the wiring, at 
>>>>>> > > least check that the colored wires are going to the correct pins. 
>>>>>> > > Other than that, you might have to send everything back to Scott and 
>>>>>> > > have him check it out for you.
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > Larry 
>>>>>> > > K7YBZ
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > --- In [email protected], Randy Love <rlove31@> wrote:
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Frank C. <fchrist2@> wrote:
>>>>>> > > > 
>>>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > On the Tracker2 i have firmware build 55076 and the Nüvi is 
>>>>>> > > > > version
>>>>>> > > > > 6.20...If that helps at all. Right now I have the vehicle half 
>>>>>> > > > > torn apart so
>>>>>> > > > > everything can be in one little area.
>>>>>> > > > >
>>>>>> > > > 
>>>>>> > > > I think that firmware isn't new enough to support the FMI cable.
>>>>>> > > > Try updating to the latest firmware and try again.
>>>>>> > > > 
>>>>>> > > > 73,
>>>>>> > > > Randy
>>>>>> > > > WF5X
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> Frank 
> 
> Oppps for got to paste site  here you go http://www.paulsnet.org/nuviv1.pdf
> 
> 

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