Melinda,

Or, conversely, you could chastise Ben for making offensive statements about
Google's "position" in his posting.

I observe that Ben's reply to my question about the "our" in his message is that
he was stating Google's position.

Since the IETF ethos calls for us to participate as individuals, and since Ben appears to be trying use Google's stature in supporting a technical argument,
where is the criticism of his statement?

Also, I have never seen _any_ vendor make a statement on an IETF list in which they
openly say that their development plans are not influenced by whatever IETF
standards may arise.  I don't doubt that many vendors feel and act this
way, but they usually don't flaunt their intent. The issue here isn't whether browser UI details are appropriate fodder for IETF standards, but rather whether Google staff should make stark statements like this in the context of an IETF WG
discussion.
On 7/10/15 6:23 AM, Stephen Kent wrote:
nice of you to reaffirm that Google doesn't care about IETF standards
in this context.
Steve, this kind of commentary really needs to stop.

Melinda



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