Terry,

A syntax edit will not flag a 'not used' 

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From: C.J. Major [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 1:05 PM
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Subject: Re: 4010 Transaction vs. HIPAA Compliance


Terry,

I would think that a syntax edit would be the very first edit done on a
transaction.  If there is any information in a "not used" field, the
transaction would fail the syntax edit and wouldn't even get to any other
edits.

Data in a "not used" field makes the transaction non-compliant.  Whether or
not it makes sense, unfortunately, doesn't come into play.

Thanks,
CJ

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C.J.
I agree to not enter into an agreement, but if information is in a field
that is clearly not used and the entire transaction passes the other edits,
does it make sense to reject it?
Thank you,


Terry Christensen


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Terry,

I disagree.  "Not used" means don't  use it.  If there is data in a "not
used" field, it is not a HIPAA compliant transaction and it probably would
not even pass a syntax exit.

>From the text of the final rule page 50368 please note (c):

� 162.915 Trading partner agreements.
A covered entity must not enter into
a trading partner agreement that would
do any of the following:
(a) Change the definition, data
condition, or use of a data element or
segment in a standard.
(b) Add any data elements or
segments to the maximum defined data
set.
(c) Use any code or data elements that
are either marked ''not used'' in the
standard's implementation specification
or are not in the standard's
implementation specification(s).
(d) Change the meaning or intent of
the standard's implementation
specification(s).

CJ
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