CJ,
 
Your not wrong the 3070X070 imp guide is still available on WPC's site.  Steve Bass had problems with the links in the December timeframe due to server moves, I believe that it is still available there. So you are correct in the distinction of X070 version 3070 versus the X093 that Ruth is trying to do something Non-HIPAA related with (and that is only the 277 part).  There are a couple of things that Ruth's comment is not quite clear making some of this more confusing that it needs to be.
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From: C.J. Major [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: RE: Notifying Providers of Pended Claims



 
OK, now I'm confused.   I thought Kepa was talking about the 3070X070
277:Health Care Payer Unsolicited Claim Status.  That IG is still on WPC
under Health Care Implementation Guides, not the HIPAA guides.
 
Am I on the wrong page here?
 
CJ
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Kepa
The issue is that the U277 is NOT available on WPC as it was previously.
The IG number of X093 was changed to the front-end ack.

Basically all we are asking WG5 (via NMEH in the white paper being
developed) is that since WG5 made this decision, what is the 'problem' with
trading partners agreeing to use the 277 STANDARD and agree to its
implementation OR for those wanting to use a 'mandated' txn just use the
x093 277 with the 837 as the 'request' portion and change the front matter
(as quoted by Maria earlier) to "describe" the usage:  Claim Status whether
requested from a 837 or 276 should yield the same result.

Seems simple to me ... sorry to create a "ruckus".

Ruth Tucci-Kaufhold
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kepa Zubeldia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:53 PM
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Subject: Re: Notifying Providers of Pended Claims


Maybe I am denser than usual today...

Is there anything that prevents a payer or a provider from implementing
the "unsolicited 277" transaction today?  I know the implementation
guide is not very "fresh", but it is available in the wpc-edi web site.

Or, are payers waiting to be mandated by the government to implement
this transaction?

Ditto for the 271 roster, or for the upcoming 824.

Kepa


Christopher J. Feahr, OD wrote:

> The inability of a payor to use the 277 to send an un-solicited LIST of
> pended claims does seem like a technicality that could be fixed... if
> there was a really need to do that.  The more likely scenario, however,
> is that a provider wants to ask "what the heck's going on with" a list
> of UNPAID claims.  If the 276 doesn't allow him to ask for status on a
> "list" then he could alternatively send a whole bunch of separate 276s.
>
> Medicaid does seem to be the only payor who periodically sends me
> unsolicited lists of "pended" claims... and as a provider I find this
> generally unhelpful, and in some cases highly annoying.  The process of
> filing a Medicaid claim is frequently automated and can be done
> electronically.  "Resubmission Turnaround Documents" and "Claim Inquiry
> Forms", however, are generally not automated and would have to be filled
> out manually (paper) and mailed.  Consequently, many providers who get
> an "RTD" in the mail or see a denial (due to an accidental submission
> error) on an EOB, find it more expedient to simply resubmit the claim
> with the corrected information.  Long after the second (resubmitted)
> claim is settled, the provider continues to get these unsolicited
> notifications that the original claim is still going through this slow
> death process involving various stages of "suspension".  The provider
> soon learns to ignore all/most unsolicited status status advice like this.
>
> I would say that if the provider isn't yelling at a payor about a pended
> claim, it means that he DOESN'T WANT any status information about it.
> (or it means that he's asleep, in which case he doesn't deserve any
> status information and would probably be confused by it if the payor
> sent it out of the blue!)
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
> At 04:42 PM 2/22/02 -0500, Young, Brian wrote:
>
>> Maria,
>>
>> If I understand what you are indicating... If a provider
>> sends a 276 claim status request and that claim is pended,
>> the 277 does not cover that pended status response
>> possibility so no response can be sent.  Nor can a payer
>> send a 277 (unsolicited) back with a 835 containing any
>> pended claims.
>>
>> And the reason is because "Pended" claim status is not a
>> HIPAA transaction.  Am I understanding you correctly?
>>
>> If so this would seem like splitting hairs.  For certainly
>> the 277 does cover claim status reporting.
>>
>>
>>   BCY
>>
>> Brian C. Young
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