On the question of storing outbound transactions,
... would the storage of the outbound transmission satisfy some privacy concerns of disclosure and the ability to report such disclosure to a patient when that patient requests such a report?
 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Heiert, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:14 AM
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Subject: RE: Certification



Well, and further..  Is there any "standard" that defines how long testing/certification data must be stored?
I mean from the software vendor end..  After they are done testing and say they are ready..
 
Kepa, any ideas?
-----Original Message-----
From: Barton, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:08 PM
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Rachel,
Do we need to store outgoing transactions?
Joe
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rachel Foerster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:41 AM
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However,
 
The application system (a claims processing system, for example) must be able to capture, store and make available all of the data required in any given HIPAA transaction. Another piece of software, whether an EDI management system, or a clearinghouse or billing service cannot conjure up data that the application system doesn't serve up.
 
So, first the data....then the format. Formatting without the required data is just junk.
 
Rachel
 

Rachel Foerster
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-----Original Message-----
From: Owens, Kris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 8:46 AM
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Subject: RE: Certification



Let me spin it one more way.  When we talk about certification we are talking about the transactions we produce, using multiple pieces of software, our applications systems to extract data and our translator to format the data.  I don't see this as certifying either of those pieces of software, but rather as you refer to in your message, certifying the ability to create a transaction that complies with the HIPAA standard.  Our software cannot produce standard transactions, and our vendor has no plans of modifying their software to do so.  They are not a covered entity and they believe that it becomes the CE's responsibility to produce the transaction - not the vendor's software which is sold as a claims processing system, not a HIPAA standard transaction producing system.
 

Kris Owens
923-8108

"You don't know what you can get away with until you try"  General Colin Powell

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rachel Foerster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Certification



My opinion is that it's the software that's certified, not the corporate entity. The software must create/process complying transactions so the software must be certified.
 
In other industries and other areas of electronic commerce, many of the standards development organizations also create what's called "conformance" requirements that developers can use to validate that the software they develop does indeed "conform" to the standard specification.
 
This is what HIPAA certification does.
 
But, there's another aspect to this. That is, that software is not "HIPAA" compliant....it's only a tool that enables the user to process transactions that comply with the specifications. But, my viewpoint is that software can be certified as having the ability to process transactions that comply with the guides, but the user can mis-use or misunderstand how to configure a software and thus actually create non-compliant transactions.
 
So, software can be certified, but it's the covered entity that complies with the law and the regulations.
 
Rachel

Rachel Foerster
Principal
Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd.
Professionals in EDI & Electronic Commerce
39432 North Avenue
Beach Park, IL 60099
Phone: 847-872-8070
Fax: 847-872-6860
http://www.rfa-edi.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Natasha Farvan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 5:01 PM
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Subject: Certification



I'm in the process of creating a TCI software vendor readiness questionnaire and one of my questions is if they are certified. But then it occurred to me does the certification apply to the entity or the application?
 
Your input is appreciated.
 
Natasha Farvan
Sr. I.S. Project Leader
HIPAA Transactions & Code Sets Project Manager
Information Technology Group
Oregon Health & Sciences University
1500 SW First Ave Ste 100B
Portland, OR  97201
Mailcode: Crown
Tel (503) 494-0561
Fax (503) 494-4626



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