But can it be a clean claim if it bills beyond the contractual
amount allowed by the health plan?  I don't think so!

If that is what this letter says, I would like similar things
done at my job!!

Basically, I can ask for any salary as long as it is in the
correct format/protocol...

That is what COULD be taken from this letter...

Now if the AHA is saying if we put in the proper (contractually agreed upon)
amounts and values in the correct format we should get prompt payment
without
haggling from the insurance plan, that sounds OK to me...

But then how will the provider be able to PROVE that they provided
the service they are billing for..  Guess that is fraud the same
way we have it right now....

-----Original Message-----
From: Rachel Foerster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WEDi/SNIP ID & Routing'
Subject: RE: FW: Article


David,

Interesting letter from the AHA to HHS. A thorough reading of the letter
makes clear that what the AHA is asking HHS to do is declare a
HIPAA-compliant claim as a "clean" claim and thereby kicking in many states'
prompt payment acts for clean claims. To date none of the state prompt pay
acts define what a clean claim is.

My personal opinion is that this request has a snowball's chance of reaching
any final rule status. If it were to do so, in effect the feds would be
requiring payers to pay any HIPAA-compliant claim regardless of whether the
services were covered services or not under the health plan contract - or
potentially whether or not the individual to whom the services were rendered
was even a current/eligible enrollee under a given health plan contract, or
any other number of "business rules" that are applied during claims
adjucation.

This could be tantamount to the feds requiring a HIBCC-compliant 810 invoice
must be paid, or even an AIAG compliant 810, or wouldn't this be
loverly...an 810 received from a federal supplier which complied with the
fed's 810 specification.

Lastly, any potential HHS rule on this would most certainly have to
supercede any state law, and this too makes problematic, in my opinion, that
such a rule would reach final status.

Rachel

-----Original Message-----
From: David Frenkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WEDi/SNIP ID & Routing'
Subject: RE: FW: Article



This is an interesting article from yesterday's AHA news.

Regards,

David Frenkel
Business Development
GEFEG USA
Global Leader in Ecommerce Tools
www.gefeg.com
425-260-5030

AHA urges HHS to require health plans to accept HIPAA claims AHA in a
letter today urged HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson to adopt a rule or
guidance requiring health plans to accept hospitals' claims compliant
with the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. According
to the letter, one of the major administrative costs and sources of
frustration facing hospitals is frequent claim payment delays,
particularly by private payers. The final HIPAA regulation on electronic
formats and code sets established national standards for electronic
submission of claims, and makes clear that health plans are not
permitted to require additional elements that deviate from those
specified, the letter adds. Plans can be somewhat arbitrary in
processing, leaving providers facing payment delays and engaged in
"wasteful" resubmissions and reconciliation. The letter asks HHS to
clarify that plans must accept HIPAA-compliant claims for contractual
provisions with other entities covered under HIPAA and for state and
federal prompt pay requirements. The letter will be at
<http://www.aha.org>.



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