This is an interesting conversation, under HIPAA will providers no 
longer be sending their Usual & Customary billings to the Payors?  
Currently in our state the Providers are required to bill using their U&C 
amount and the R/A returns the contract amount, adjustments and net 
paid.

We have been looking into the possibility for providing repricing 
services to our providers, but couldn't see a real benefit.  If HIPAA 
requires the provider to bill the contract rate rather than the U&C, I 
begin to see the value of the service.

Looking forward to more discussion on this issue....



> But can it be a clean claim if it bills beyond the contractual
> amount allowed by the health plan?  I don't think so!
> 
> If that is what this letter says, I would like similar things
> done at my job!!
> 
> Basically, I can ask for any salary as long as it is in the
> correct format/protocol...
> 
> That is what COULD be taken from this letter...
> 
> Now if the AHA is saying if we put in the proper (contractually agreed
> upon) amounts and values in the correct format we should get prompt
> payment without haggling from the insurance plan, that sounds OK to
> me...
> 
> But then how will the provider be able to PROVE that they provided the
> service they are billing for..  Guess that is fraud the same way we
> have it right now....
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Foerster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WEDi/SNIP ID & Routing'
> Subject: RE: FW: Article
> 
> 
> David,
> 
> Interesting letter from the AHA to HHS. A thorough reading of the
> letter makes clear that what the AHA is asking HHS to do is declare a
> HIPAA-compliant claim as a "clean" claim and thereby kicking in many
> states' prompt payment acts for clean claims. To date none of the
> state prompt pay acts define what a clean claim is.
> 
> My personal opinion is that this request has a snowball's chance of
> reaching any final rule status. If it were to do so, in effect the
> feds would be requiring payers to pay any HIPAA-compliant claim
> regardless of whether the services were covered services or not under
> the health plan contract - or potentially whether or not the
> individual to whom the services were rendered was even a
> current/eligible enrollee under a given health plan contract, or any
> other number of "business rules" that are applied during claims
> adjucation.
> 
> This could be tantamount to the feds requiring a HIBCC-compliant 810
> invoice must be paid, or even an AIAG compliant 810, or wouldn't this
> be loverly...an 810 received from a federal supplier which complied
> with the fed's 810 specification.
> 
> Lastly, any potential HHS rule on this would most certainly have to
> supercede any state law, and this too makes problematic, in my
> opinion, that such a rule would reach final status.
> 
> Rachel
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Frenkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WEDi/SNIP ID & Routing'
> Subject: RE: FW: Article
> 
> 
> 
> This is an interesting article from yesterday's AHA news.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David Frenkel
> Business Development
> GEFEG USA
> Global Leader in Ecommerce Tools
> www.gefeg.com
> 425-260-5030
> 
> AHA urges HHS to require health plans to accept HIPAA claims AHA in a
> letter today urged HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson to adopt a rule or
> guidance requiring health plans to accept hospitals' claims compliant
> with the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.
> According to the letter, one of the major administrative costs and
> sources of frustration facing hospitals is frequent claim payment
> delays, particularly by private payers. The final HIPAA regulation on
> electronic formats and code sets established national standards for
> electronic submission of claims, and makes clear that health plans are
> not permitted to require additional elements that deviate from those
> specified, the letter adds. Plans can be somewhat arbitrary in
> processing, leaving providers facing payment delays and engaged in
> "wasteful" resubmissions and reconciliation. The letter asks HHS to
> clarify that plans must accept HIPAA-compliant claims for contractual
> provisions with other entities covered under HIPAA and for state and
> federal prompt pay requirements. The letter will be at
> <http://www.aha.org>.
> 
> 
> 


Del Texley
LIPA Information Systems
(541) 484 6430


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