Stephen,
The DDE exception allows for non-HIPAA compliant transmission of
information.  It would make good business sense for a payer to use the
270/271 formats to transmit information in a DDE situation.  The State
of WA built a 270/271 project doing this.

Regards,

David Frenkel
Business Development
GEFEG USA
Global Leader in Ecommerce Tools
www.gefeg.com
425-260-5030

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:24 AM
To: 'Stanley Nachimson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Internet Transaction limitations?

I think this requires further clarification.  Is an inquiry for
eligibility
made directly into a payer's system (through the Web or otherwise)
considered an EDI transaction?  Is it EDI if the same inquiry is built
on a
web page if the web page is sponsored by the plan?  I was under the
impression that the 270/271 transactions are intended for
system-to-system
inquiries.  I definitely could be mistaken.  

Stephen C. Block
Director, Information Services
St. Joseph's Hospital Health Center
301 Prospect Ave.
Syracuse, NY  13203
(315)-448-5613 (phone)
(315)-448-5424 (fax)

-----Original Message-----
From: Stanley Nachimson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Internet Transaction limitations?

Your understanding is not entirely correct.   The requirements for
web/Internet transactions depends on whether they are a Direct Data
Entry
transaction (ie a provider entering data directly into a plan's system
via a
web page) or a transaction built on a web page and then sent via the
Internet to the plan.  If the former, then the transaction must be
compliant
with data content and coding requirements of the standards; no
proprietary
coding.  Additional functions can be made available via optional
screens;
but providers cannot be required to use these to complete a transaction.

If the latter situation exists, then the transaction must be both data
content and format compliant.

Stanley Nachimson
HIPAA Project Team, CMS
410-786-6153

>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/29/02 07:28PM >>>
Am I correct that web/Internet based transactions do not have to comply
with the format of the standard transaction (ANSI)
but the content with respect to the code sets must comply?

For example, when a provider inquires about a patient's
eligibility/benefits via the Internet, may I respond with information
which is from our proprietary system (such as member ID suffix)?   May
we
send back via the screen information and fields
which is not contained in the ANSI transaction, or are we limited to the
scope of that transaction, even if the format is not
required to be compliant?

Thank you,
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Margaret Shilling
Manager, Trading Partners
The Regence Group
Phone:  253.573.3407
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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