Thanks, Stuart I'm sorry... I should have clarified that I was talking about HIPAA, which mandates that non-medical codes are to be validated against the transaction creation date. If I understand your reply, I would think the lists of codes you display on your site need an update. I'd gladly change my current way of thinking and just check a list of the (004010) codes with no dates, but based on how they have been represented on your site, under "HIPAA, Code Lists", my assumption was that there have been and will be updates which include a date for the code change. Please validate that what you said before is valid as I'm still a little confused about not including a date. Here's an example: Per the DISA site (Thanks to Cathy Sheppard for the hint), version 3070 was effective 1/1/97. The entry on the WPC site for Code 'X0' under Health Care Claim Status Category Codes has a note that states,"Inactive for 003070, since 2/98.". Was the 'X0' code unavailable for use on 1/1/97 or 2/1/98? Another example: Code 'A5' reads, "New as of 2/02" If I were to purchase the 841 file you mention, would 'A5' appear in the 004010 list? In case any body else is going down this path as I see it, those dates for cancellation on the DISA site are (Near as I can tell): 1/1/97 for version 3070 1/1/95 for version 3050 1/1/94 for version 3040
_____ Martin A. Morrison Project Management Consultant HIPAA Implementation/Coordination Blue Shield of California 4203 Town Center Bl., Ste. D1 El Dorado Hills, Ca 95762 Ph: (916) 350-8808 Fx: (916) 350-8623 This electronic message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential and protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are cautioned that use of its contents in any way is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone and return the original message by e-mail to the sender or to <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] We will reimburse you for any cost you incur in notifying us of the errant e-mail. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Beaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Status and Category codes Martin, When one of the codes is marked inactive for a specific version, it indicates that you cannot use that code for that version of the standard going forward, the date of the transaction is irrelevant. If you think of the code being deleted for a transaction the identified version of the standard, any transaction using the identified version or a later version would not be able to use/recognize that code. To simplify things a little further for you, if all you are doing is version 004010 transactions, any code that has been identified as inactive for a version earlier than 004010 cannot be used. WPC has made available all of the code lists it hosts in an 841 transaction. For the code sets that have version specific codes (active or inactive) there are seperate transaction files for each version of the standard. For the 004010 transactions, you would load all of the 004010 code tables and no other and only active codes are in the 004010 code table. For more information on the 841 code list transactions go to the following page on our web site: http://www.wpc-edi.com/hipaa/codelistdwnld.asp <http://www.wpc-edi.com/hipaa/codelistdwnld.asp> I hope this helps clarify things for you, Stuart Beaton Vice President Washington Publishing Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thu 7/11/2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: RE: Status and Category codes Been there. Done that. What I'm looking to do is read an array for these codes and check their validity for a given transaction creation date using the [CODE], [EFFECTIVE_DATE] and [CANCELLATION_DATE] values in the array. My problem is that I have no specific date for the entries I inquired about previously. I could rephrase my question as follows: On which dates were the following versions released for use; version 3040? version 3050? version 3070? I know I could just assign a reasonable cancellation date of my own choosing to force the desired outcome, but If I can find the "correct" date, I'll sleep better. _____ Martin A. Morrison Project Management Consultant HIPAA Implementation/Coordination Blue Shield of California 4203 Town Center Bl., Ste. D1 El Dorado Hills, Ca 95762 Ph: (916) 350-8808 Fx: (916) 350-8623 This electronic message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential and protected by law. 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Would anyone know what the specific cancellation dates would be for Claim Adjustment Reason Codes (Source 139) when the references say only:, "Inactive for 003070", "Inactive for 003050" or "Inactive for 003040"??? _____ Martin A. Morrison Project Management Consultant HIPAA Implementation/Coordination Blue Shield of California 4203 Town Center Bl., Ste. D1 El Dorado Hills, Ca 95762 Ph: (916) 350-8808 Fx: (916) 350-8623 This electronic message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential and protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are cautioned that use of its contents in any way is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone and return the original message by e-mail to the sender or to [EMAIL PROTECTED] < mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > . We will reimburse you for any cost you incur in notifying us of the errant e-mail. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: Cindy Monarch [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:01 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Status and Category codes Alex, WPC has an FAQ for this... www.wpc-edi.com/FAQ_40.asp Hope this is helpful. Cindy Monarch CPC Michigan Public Health Institute -----Original Message----- From: Alex Chernyak [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Status and Category codes Can somebody confirm: . Health Care Claim Status(and Category) Codes are time(release) dependent. Example: Status Code 8 - "No payment due to contract/plan provisions" Related message : "Inactive as of ASC X12 Version 4020. 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