I will be out of the office, on Thursday and  Friday, October 24 & 25.  If you need 
immediate assistance please contact Doreen Maxfield at Ext. 3810.

Thank you.

>>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 10/23/02 15:48 >>>

I will be out of the office, on Thursday and  Friday, October 24 & 25.  If you need 
immediate assistance please contact Doreen Maxfield at Ext. 3810.

Thank you.

>>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 10/23/02 15:45 >>>

Manutosh,

I respectfully disagree with your assessment and conclusions below.

1. XML is not a communications medium, it is a mark-up language. It does not
specify the way data is stored, only the way data is marked up in a
document. XML is a derivative of SGML, which originated to support the
printing and graphics industries as those industries moved from hand-set
type, hot metal linotype, and manual proofreading to automation. Before SGML
editors used specialized mark-up to provide instructions to the typesetters.
(In another life I was a professional proofreader at a printing company.)

2. Documents that are covered by the HIPAA Electronic Transaction Final Rule
CANNOT be exchanged between the various entities set forth in the rule in an
XML-based format. The information must be exchanged in accordance with the
HIPAA Implementation Guides, including the format and data content. The
format is the ASC X12 Standards.

3. Both XML and the EDI standards are rules used to structure data. Each
(XML and ASC X12) has its own set of rules.

4. Embedding X12 segment ids/tags, data element numbers, etc. in an XML
document adds no technical or business value.

5. Any data can be stored internally by any entity in any format using
whatever technologies or techniques it wishes.

Rachel Foerster
Principal
Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd.
39432 North Avenue
Beach Park, IL 60099
Voice: 847-872-8070
Fax: 847-872-6860
eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:rachel@;rfa-edi.com>
http://www.rfa-edi.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Manutosh Mathur [mailto:mxm25@;health.state.ny.us]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 4:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: XML version of 278



I think we are missing the point here.
XML is a protocol which commands the way the data is stored. EDI ANSI X12
is a standard - it can be written in XML or any other format. HIPAA is
technology - neutral (whether it is XML or any other format doesn't really
matter)
Some of the popular EDI translators like Microsoft's Biztalk use XML to
save the X12 schemas internally. It does not necessarily mean that these
schemas are not EDI ANSI X12 files. It is possible that the translator
transmits the XML files which are following the X12 standard.
One can develop the 278(or any other HIPAA transaction) in XML. Similarly,
you can create non-HIPAA formats like UB-92 in XML.
XML is just a medium of communication, with the base standards set by EDI
ANSI X12 (in case of HIPAA).

Manutosh
(518)257-4482



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