Ya know, if we are going to roll this, why not build a paging model into it
from the git go?  I bet tons of folks have done that already or have their
own hacks around it (I perform my sql query for ID's only, for the specific
page of results i want, then loop and return the transfer objects as a part
of a structure with totalPages, currentPage, itemsPerPage, and the TO array.

just thinkin out loud here

Chris

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Adam Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>  I'm getting the feeling that either you guys don't have your own
> implementation of this pattern in transfer, or your just holding out
> on me.. ;)
>
> @Peter..
> How have you used transfer with your IBO pattern?   Does LightBase use
> Transfer?
>
> @Chris
>  I would like to suggest that we define the scope of the TIOB
> responsibilities, and dependencies, and then specify the functionality
> and implementations which are required for our general use cases...
>
> @John
> I would be able to commit a super alpha tag once we lay this thing
> out... and I would look froward to as much testing and feedback as
> possible...besides I need some extra validation in my life =).
>
>
>
> For Follow Up:
>
> Does anyone have any caveats or advice they can share when approaching
> this?
> Mark, Is this an abomination of the TransferObject??
> What are some of the other "design around" practices in use?
> Any one else interested in collaborating/helping/testing?
>
>
> I remain,
> Adam Drew
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 5, 7:48 pm, "John Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I design around this, but would love to check it out when/if super alpha.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Chris Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > I want to see this too =)  With the latest proxy object support and
> lazy
> > > loading, I have been using an array of transfer objects in a few
> places,
> > > which I would love to gut and replace with something like your TIBO
> > > (Transfer Iterating Business Object, lets spread the word, thats the
> new
> > > acronym).  If you need a tester let me know =)
> >
> > > Chris Peterson
> > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Peter Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >> Im certainly interested in seeing how this progresses :-)
> >
> > >> Peter
> >
> > >> On Dec 5, 2008, at 1:05 AM, Adam wrote:
> >
> > >> > I am trying to create an IteratingTransferObject, or
> > >> > AbastractIteratingObject, or IteratingBusinessObject (IBO) as
> > >> > described by Mr. Peter Bell...
> >
> > >> > I need something to kill the OIP evil do-er with transfer objects
> from
> > >> > large tables that _need_ the concrete,  mixin, and abstract code to
> > >> > perform accordingly... (validation/documentation/business objects,
> ui,
> > >> > ajax calls, mvc plugins, services, gateways..)  I was never never
> able
> > >> > to find, or didn't look in the right places for a solid example of
> the
> > >> > pattern in use with transfer.
> >
> > >> > I think it's a great idea, so I did a quick and dirty test in my
> > >> > model .. this dirty test gave my ui  an unscientifically estimation
> of
> > >> > 80%!! reduction in load times on large record sets, as compared to
> > >> > when i just use very large transfer object collections.
> >
> > >> > In my proof of concept I immediately ran into a few things right of
> > >> > the bat that would require some rethinking and refactoring..
>  But....
> > >> > I don't want to run off into the desert with no water if there is
> > >> > another route...
> >
> > >> > My ITO is a factory generated, beanInjected, wrapper on a new
> transfer
> > >> > object that is being populated() by my Abstract Decorator and looped
> > >> > over a cached query,. so when i get one of these 'transferObjects'
> > >> > it's not exactly being created by Transfer, and I found that i was
> > >> > getting a PK = 0 and isPersisted = false and isDirty=true.....
> >
> > >> > I quickly hacked my wrapper to get the PK from the
> instance.recordset,
> > >> > insted of the TO just to make it work.... but I cant move any
> further
> > >> > with this until i get my head around the Performance / Development/
> > >> > Cost involved... or at least make me feel comfortable that it's
> going
> > >> > to work until adobe _hopefully_ fixes the OIP in CF9???..
> >
> > >> > I'm just looking for any feedback from anyone with any interest in
> my
> > >> > topic..
> >
> > >> > Thanks Guys!
> >
> > > --
> > > Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how to
> do
> > > what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama)
> >
>


-- 
Hey! I dont tell you how to tell me what to do, so dont tell me how to do
what you tell me to do! ~ Bender (Futurama)

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