@Mark: Thanks for letting us know where you stand - it's great to hear
that Transfer won't be neglected. You've done a brilliant job in
developing such a useful product. All the best for the future!

Cheers
Matthew

On Jul 28, 7:31 am, Mark Mandel <[email protected]> wrote:
> James, Thanks for bringing this up.
>
> Hibernate is a *crazy* good product, and is miles above and beyond
> Transfer's capabilities. In my opinion, the implementation in CF9 has been
> done *exceedingly* well. The only detractor  being that your are tied to a
> single datasource (which I'm sure people will work out a way around at some
> point). If you want the power of CFORM, with the cache similar to what
> Transfer has, it is very simple to plug caching (integrated or
> distributed)into the CF9 ORM implementation. Long
> term, I fully expect the usage of other CFML ORM's such as Transfer will
> diminish.
>
> My own personal work has lead into more Java/CF integration (with some
> announcements on that in the future), using Hibernate directly with Java and
> CF9 ORM will start to become a large component of that. I'll work on pieces
> of Transfer, as I still have a very strong interest in persistence
> frameworks, but I also want to follow my interests and the evolution of the
> platform.
>
> I know many of you have a large investment in Transfer. The last thing I
> want is to leave Transfer as an orphaned product. Starting today, I am
> taking an initial round of volunteers to help guide and direct Transfer as
> an OSS product. Transfer has a large and vibrant following and I certainly
> want to make sure that Transfer continues to be a well supported OSS project
> and is able to power ColdFusion applications for a long while to come. If
> you are interested in working on Transfer, email me at [email protected]
>
> Finally, I just want to say I am exceedingly proud of Transfer and the
> Transfer community.  Going back to 2005 when the project first started,
> there is no possible way I could have foreseen where Transfer would have
> gone, or the group of incredibly smart people that became part of the
> community around it.
>
> I'll admit, the CF9 ORM integration was a bit of a blow emotionally, however
> I think it will be a huge boon for the ColdFusion community as a whole. The
> work of Adobe's engineers is astounding and the continual evolution of the
> ColdFusion platform is something I strongly want to be a part of, regardless
> of any blow to my ego.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:03 PM, James Allen 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Mark,
>
> > You seem very impressed by the CF9 Hibernate integration (it does look
> > great) but I was wondering how this impacts on your plans for Transfer if at
> > all?
>
> > Are you still fully focused on taking Transfer onward and upward?
>
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>
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>
> > Blog:http://jamesallen.name
>
> > Twitter: @CFJamesAllen (Coldfusion / Web development)
>
> > Twitter: @jamesallenuk (General)
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