Keeping up on CF9 and Hibernate, and also toying around with Transfer,
I fully expected a post like this to come.  In around ten years of
development, I have seen plenty of these very helpful projects go by
the wayside when similar technology is implemented by larger software
vendors.  Kudos to Mark for taking on the project to begin with, and
today being up front and pragmatic about how the evolution of
ColdFusion affects Transfer as a solution.

On Jul 27, 4:31 pm, Mark Mandel <[email protected]> wrote:
> James, Thanks for bringing this up.
>
> Hibernate is a *crazy* good product, and is miles above and beyond
> Transfer's capabilities. In my opinion, the implementation in CF9 has been
> done *exceedingly* well. The only detractor  being that your are tied to a
> single datasource (which I'm sure people will work out a way around at some
> point). If you want the power of CFORM, with the cache similar to what
> Transfer has, it is very simple to plug caching (integrated or
> distributed)into the CF9 ORM implementation. Long
> term, I fully expect the usage of other CFML ORM's such as Transfer will
> diminish.
>
> My own personal work has lead into more Java/CF integration (with some
> announcements on that in the future), using Hibernate directly with Java and
> CF9 ORM will start to become a large component of that. I'll work on pieces
> of Transfer, as I still have a very strong interest in persistence
> frameworks, but I also want to follow my interests and the evolution of the
> platform.
>
> I know many of you have a large investment in Transfer. The last thing I
> want is to leave Transfer as an orphaned product. Starting today, I am
> taking an initial round of volunteers to help guide and direct Transfer as
> an OSS product. Transfer has a large and vibrant following and I certainly
> want to make sure that Transfer continues to be a well supported OSS project
> and is able to power ColdFusion applications for a long while to come. If
> you are interested in working on Transfer, email me at [email protected]
>
> Finally, I just want to say I am exceedingly proud of Transfer and the
> Transfer community.  Going back to 2005 when the project first started,
> there is no possible way I could have foreseen where Transfer would have
> gone, or the group of incredibly smart people that became part of the
> community around it.
>
> I'll admit, the CF9 ORM integration was a bit of a blow emotionally, however
> I think it will be a huge boon for the ColdFusion community as a whole. The
> work of Adobe's engineers is astounding and the continual evolution of the
> ColdFusion platform is something I strongly want to be a part of, regardless
> of any blow to my ego.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:03 PM, James Allen 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Mark,
>
> > You seem very impressed by the CF9 Hibernate integration (it does look
> > great) but I was wondering how this impacts on your plans for Transfer if at
> > all?
>
> > Are you still fully focused on taking Transfer onward and upward?
>
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>
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>
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