コミュニティカウンシルで提案されたOOoファウンデーションの問題は現在
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より広くOpenOffice.orgコミュニティで議論を深めてもらうため、CCR(コミュ
ニティコントリビュータ代表)のLaurentさんが、この件についての議論を
[email protected] に振りました。現在のところ1件だけレスポンスがつい
ています。

[discuss] OOo Foundation : Building the future ?
Laurent Godard
09 November 2005 18:08
To: [email protected]

Hi all

First please forgive me for this late announcement and putting this to
your attention.
As CCR, i relay a discussion that occured in the community council,
thanks to Louis

http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=675
and the discussion that occured then
http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=discuss&by=thread&from=1117047

The discussion has been then relayed on native-lang projects
http://native-lang.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=5930
http://native-lang.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=dev&by=thread&from=1117896

please note the good summary of the council discussion from Bernhard Dippold
http://native-lang.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=5945

I now some discussion occuring in french, japanese and german team. You
may be already involved in them. Feel free to update there in english.
Btw, for the general users, here is the relay on an english list.
The purpose of it is to start thinking on ways to make OOo independant
and provide background for variuous corporate developpers, fundings ...

Loocking at OpenDocument growth, the question is : is OOo the same as
OpenDocument? It has been agreed is discussions that it is not. Yes OOo
is the premium integrator of OpenDocument but it is an office suite,
which means more than a document format regarding user experience for
example.

So here raises the question :
How can we build something that provides a neutral place that allow
funders but also major contributors (yes, and smaller ones too) that are
usually competitors to come and work together on their common goal : OOo.

We are now in a unique situation that let us create the future of an
independant OOo. We need to do it with a large vision as it will be
difficult, once setup, to change even if things can be built step by step.

Every idea, suggestion is welcommed. Btw, please remain positive and
constructive as we all have so few time to spend.

Thanks to all

Laurent

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Daniel Carrera
10 November 2005 00:10
To: [email protected]

I think there should be a notion of "member" (instead of just being
subscribed to the list). To make an analogy with OOo, people with the
observer status in some project could be "members".

I think it should be democratic. The Board of Directors (or whatever you
call it) should be elected directly by the membership. In a way similar
to how the CCR is elected today, except that the BoD should not be able
to remove nominated members from the election (I think this is a problem
with the current CCR election model).

Likewise, the Board of Directors (BoD) should not have company
representatives unless of course, they are elected directly by the
membership. In other words, if the membership votes someone into the BoD
and that someone happens to be in a company, that's cool. But no company
should be able to put someone in the BoD directly.

I think that this model would be a good and healthy change for OOo. It
would make it more grass roots, and more community-based than it is
today. And this is where OOo should be going. Towards independence and
community-drive.

Of course, you can argue that companies that put resources should have a
say. But remember that they already have 100% control over what *their*
contribution is going to be. If Google adds 5 developers to OOo, those
developers will work on what Google tells them to. We don't need to give
Google a spot on the BoD to make that happen.

You might consider having a Company Advisory Board (CAB) that makes
recommendations to the BoD. And the BoD can decide whether to listen to
the CAB or not, and it understands the consequences of each action. If
they never listen to the CAB, they risk losing company support. If they
do nothing but what the CAB tells them, they risk losing community
support and they get replaced when the next set of elections comes in.
So you can have a nice balance here, and listen to big companies,
without losing the community.

Cheers,
Daniel.
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khirano


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