コミュニティカウンシルで提案されたOOoファウンデーションの問題は現在 [EMAIL PROTECTED] でも議論されています。 より広くOpenOffice.orgコミュニティで議論を深めてもらうため、CCR(コミュ ニティコントリビュータ代表)のLaurentさんが、この件についての議論を [email protected] に振りました。現在のところ1件だけレスポンスがつい ています。
[discuss] OOo Foundation : Building the future ? Laurent Godard 09 November 2005 18:08 To: [email protected] Hi all First please forgive me for this late announcement and putting this to your attention. As CCR, i relay a discussion that occured in the community council, thanks to Louis http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=675 and the discussion that occured then http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=discuss&by=thread&from=1117047 The discussion has been then relayed on native-lang projects http://native-lang.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=5930 http://native-lang.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=dev&by=thread&from=1117896 please note the good summary of the council discussion from Bernhard Dippold http://native-lang.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=5945 I now some discussion occuring in french, japanese and german team. You may be already involved in them. Feel free to update there in english. Btw, for the general users, here is the relay on an english list. The purpose of it is to start thinking on ways to make OOo independant and provide background for variuous corporate developpers, fundings ... Loocking at OpenDocument growth, the question is : is OOo the same as OpenDocument? It has been agreed is discussions that it is not. Yes OOo is the premium integrator of OpenDocument but it is an office suite, which means more than a document format regarding user experience for example. So here raises the question : How can we build something that provides a neutral place that allow funders but also major contributors (yes, and smaller ones too) that are usually competitors to come and work together on their common goal : OOo. We are now in a unique situation that let us create the future of an independant OOo. We need to do it with a large vision as it will be difficult, once setup, to change even if things can be built step by step. Every idea, suggestion is welcommed. Btw, please remain positive and constructive as we all have so few time to spend. Thanks to all Laurent --------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Carrera 10 November 2005 00:10 To: [email protected] I think there should be a notion of "member" (instead of just being subscribed to the list). To make an analogy with OOo, people with the observer status in some project could be "members". I think it should be democratic. The Board of Directors (or whatever you call it) should be elected directly by the membership. In a way similar to how the CCR is elected today, except that the BoD should not be able to remove nominated members from the election (I think this is a problem with the current CCR election model). Likewise, the Board of Directors (BoD) should not have company representatives unless of course, they are elected directly by the membership. In other words, if the membership votes someone into the BoD and that someone happens to be in a company, that's cool. But no company should be able to put someone in the BoD directly. I think that this model would be a good and healthy change for OOo. It would make it more grass roots, and more community-based than it is today. And this is where OOo should be going. Towards independence and community-drive. Of course, you can argue that companies that put resources should have a say. But remember that they already have 100% control over what *their* contribution is going to be. If Google adds 5 developers to OOo, those developers will work on what Google tells them to. We don't need to give Google a spot on the BoD to make that happen. You might consider having a Company Advisory Board (CAB) that makes recommendations to the BoD. And the BoD can decide whether to listen to the CAB or not, and it understands the consequences of each action. If they never listen to the CAB, they risk losing company support. If they do nothing but what the CAB tells them, they risk losing community support and they get replaced when the next set of elections comes in. So you can have a nice balance here, and listen to big companies, without losing the community. Cheers, Daniel. ----------------- . khirano --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
