In a message dated 5/29/01, Dan Roman writes:

> I am looking for a relay that can be used without restriction for a fail 
> over function between CO trunks and station sets in a PBX type application. 
>  The fail over relays switch select CO trunks over to individual phones 
> should the PBX fail or lose power.  The coil to contact insulation must 
> protect SELV from TNV-3 and the contact to contact insulation must protect 
> TNV-2 (which is not isolated from SELV) from TNV-3.  


Hi Dan:

Sounds like what you want is a relay that provides "supplementary insulation 
for a working voltage of 250 volts" between open contacts.  I've started down 
that path before, but have usually found another solution before I had to 
actually source such a relay.

Back in 1993 I looked at the Omron G5H2 relay, which provided supplementary 
insulation between open contacts.  The internal design of this relay was an 
engineering marvel.  The relay footprint was 12 mm by 27 mm, so it was larger 
than most telecom relays, and it was more expensive.  I have heard that this 
relay may have been discontinued, but it was certainly a nice part if you had 
to have supplementary insulation between open contacts.

In practice, I have found that the requirement for supplementary insulation 
between open contacts can usually be waived by exercising certain clauses in 
EN 60950.  In particular, the exemptions involving a permanent connection to 
earth ground are very useful for some types of equipment, including PBXs.  
You might look into this approach some more before you go crazy trying to 
source a special relay.


Joe Randolph
Telecom Design Consultant
Randolph Telecom, Inc.
781-721-2848
http://www.randolph-telecom.com

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