From: Heiko Kuehling/Jpn/TUV
  <[email protected]>
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: 14 Mar 97 10:27:23 
Subject: Hand held Probe Assemblies and Oscilloscopes acc to EN 61010-1
  and EN 6101-2-031

Clearance and Creepage Distances for Hand held Probe Assemblies acc to EN=
=20
6101-2-031

1) We have a passive probe type C (max. AC/DC 600V, Pollution Degree ) fo=
r=20
connection to a oscilloscope. The=20
connection will be via  a BNC connector (locking type).=20

Clause 6.4.102 describes the protection for connectors in Normal conditio=
n. We=20
consider the BNC connector as=20
(when fully mated) a connector, which is not intended to be hand held aft=
er=20
connection. According to 6.4.102a)=20
Basic Insulation to live parts would be accpetable.
Clearance and Creepage and creepage distances within the compensating box=
 do=20
not compply with the requiremnts=20
(3mm considered due to material group 1) In addition the high voltage tes=
t with=20
AC 2200V failed. Our test=01%s have shown=20
that the probe would pass with a test voltage of about AC 700V.

Question: The probe will be connected to an earthed oscilloscope anyway.=20
Appropriate warning are given in the user=20
manual, that only earthed oscilloscopes shall be used to avoid electric s=
hock=20
hazards.=20
The BNC - connector is in this way connected to an earthed system. Can th=
is=20
locked connecter be considered as a=20
reliable PE - connection???
This would mean, that within the compensating box no clearance and creepa=
ge=20
distances from line to accessible metal=20
parts of the BNC connector are required.

2) In regard to question 1, how are requirements for the input of an=20
oscilloscope. Is basic insulation from line to PE (metal=20
enclosure) with material group 1 acceptable ? I think, Part one alone of =
EN=20
61010 doesnt give us the appropriate answer
for this case.=20

3) According to EN 61010-2-032 clause 6.4.104 cables shall comply with th=
e=20
requirements for reinforced or double=20
insulation.
Type A and C probe assemblies require minimum 125V or rated voltage.=20
Does anybody has a simple idea, why 125V. Some people assumed, it might b=
e,=20
because in the US is a 120V- system=20
But how knows the connection in this point ?

Heiko K=81hling
T=9AV Rheinland=20
Yokohama Laboratory
e-mail [email protected]

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