Joe,

Your right the NTR 3 network is very similar to the Austel TS 002 network.

The Austel network I was thinking about was the old one (circa 1991) that
had similiar or the same values as U.K. BS 6305 (370 - 620 ohms//310 nF). 
It has been a while since I've designed an Austel DAA.  The network I was
thinking of pre-dated TS 002.  I don't have those old documents anymore
and don't remember the values (I didn't make copies when I left Rockwell).
I do remember the terrible time I had getting good return loss and good
THL. 

Regards,  Duane

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On Fri, 21 Feb 1997 [email protected] wrote:

> In a message dated 97-02-21, you write:
> 
> << NTR 3 network has little effect on achieving 
>  decent transhybrid loss.  It's nothing like the effect the 
>  Austel complex impedance network has on THL. >>
> 
> Duane:
> 
> Thanks for your feedback.  I'm surprised that you see any significant
> difference between the NTR 3 network (275 ohms, 750 ohms, 150 nF) and the
> Austel network (220 ohms, 820 ohms, 120 nF).  Are you sure that there is a
> difference?
> 
> The old BS 6305 network was a problem (370 ohms, 620 ohms, 310 nF), but this
> is now history.
> 
> BTW, I have had the same experience as you with optimizing THL with a complex
> return loss termination.  It just seems to be easier to get decent results
> when the return loss termination is 600 ohms.  I'm not sure why.  
> 
> Partly because of this, I prefer to use a 600 ohm termination for the designs
> that I get approved under NTR 3.  The test report does not look as impressive
> (only about 2 dB margin at 4000 Hz), but it gets the job done.  As we have
> discussed, I do not believe that this poses any tangible threat to actual,
> real-world performance.
> 
> Joe Randolph
> 

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