Konrad,

After reading the TREGS email on metering tones some other questions occured 
to me.  If you don't mind I would like to ask the following:

1.  Do you know what mechanism is used to transmit the metering 
tones?  

2.  How it is generated?

3.  In other words is it a sinewave with a small amount of distortion or 
a square wave?

4.  What is the shape of the 12 KHz burst when transmitted?  i.e Does it 
have a well behaved exponential rise and fall?

5.  What is the duration of metering tone in Switzerland?

I am asking these questions because I build a metering tone generator that
transmits a burst with good exponential rise and fall.  It designed mainly
for testing German DAA and it works well.  Although it wasn't needed at
the time I also included Swiss capablities.  I just want to make sure I
didn't miss something.  Reading the TREG email made me a little a nervous. 
I thought maybe metering tones in Switzerland might not be clean sinewaves
and/or were transmitted at a much higher level than Germany. 

Thank you again.

Amities,

Duane

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On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Konrad Gysi 
wrote:

> Dear Duane, Ben, Rene....
> 
> Switzerland have the metering tones (12 kHz) enabled on all the lines by
> default. But you can ask for disabling it when ever you want.
> 
> best regards konrad, swisscom (new name for telecomm PTT switzerland)
> 
> 
> >Dear Duane and Ben,
> >
> >It is indeed possible to have a modem approved without filters in them.
> >They don't even check whether you remain connected, only whether
> >your impedance isn't too low at 16KHz. It is unclear to me how well
> >a modem would perform without it. The ones that had no filter but were
> >used for demos worked pretty well with V.42 switched on.
> >A difference between Germany and for instance Switzerland is that
> >in Germany the metering tones are enabled by default on all lines,
> >one has to request them to be disabled. Switzerland, as far as I know
> >doesn't have them enabled on all the lines by default.
> >
> >Best regards, Rene
> >
> >----------
> >From:   [email protected] on behalf of Duane J Marcroft
> >Sent:   Tuesday, March 25, 1997 3:31 AM
> >To:     [email protected]
> >Cc:     [email protected]
> >Subject:        Re: Filter for Germany
> >
> >Ben,
> >
> >I have designed a number of PCMCIA cards in the last several years and
> >none them have billing tone filters for Germany.  I believe it is now
> >possible to have a modem approved in Germany sans filters.  The modem is
> >now allowed to make some errors in the presence of metering tones, but it
> >must not drop the line.  Also, if you use the inductance of the
> >transformer in the correct way it is possible to increase the Rockwell
> >modem tolerance of metering tones beyond 0.7 vrms and in the majority of
> >connections the modem will not hiccup.  By adjusting modem firmware it is
> >possible to bridge hiccup periods and not disconnect.
> >
> >Regards,.................
> 
> 
> 

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