Vic wrote:
     
Volker wrote:
     
>      a signal delayed by less than 5-8 milliseconds causes a hollowness. 
If 
>      the delay is less than 2 milliseconds the human ear cannot detect an
     
>      echo.
>      The awareness of echo depends of course on (the combination of) 
>      various effects, e.g. the frequency response and sidetone masking 
>      rating (STMR) of the sidetone path.
>      You can find some information on effects related to sidetone in the 
G 
>      series papers of the ITU-T.
     
I fully agree with the statement but must add that one should not make 
absolute statements about ears, because the good Lord didn't give all of us 
cochlea with
the same response time.  Ergo, some humans may hear echoes, where others 
hear nothing of the sort.
     
Ciao,
     
     
Vic
     
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You are totally right Vic.
Since all ears are different (and the brains needed to analyse the sound 
signal) you must be carefull making statement about ears in terms of exact 
values.
The different behaviour of human ears and therefore the different kinds of 
perception of echos is caused by psycho-acoustic effects, the response time 
can be neglected.
The values mentioned above can be taken as a rule of thumb. Even if the 
listener does not hear an echo he will at least be disturbed or annoyed 
resulting in the impression of a low quality telephone connection.

Volker

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