Let's don't get too far off the original path. The CE mark is just one of
the pieces of information that some directives require on the packaging. For
example, the R&TTE directive requires additional information concerning any
constraints on the use of a radio in any of the EU countries.
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From: [email protected]
[SMTP:[email protected]] on behalf of Bill Ellingford
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:46 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Packaging vs. Shipping Container
Hi Treg world
Re CE mark,
The mark allows the free movement of goods within the EU and
EFTA nations. This is because it is indicating conformity against certain
directives, which apply throughout the union. Therefore, if a product falls
within the category of a directive, it requires the mark even if only sold
in one member state. This legislation will become even more important under
the new R&TTE directive 99/5/EC.
When CE marking a product, you are also declaring conformity
against the applicable directives (interested parties may request a copy of
this declaration). A product that does not meet any directives would not be
CE marked. This could occurr for items that do not fall within the scope of
current directives otherwise for products that do, the product would be
non-conformant.
Most things electrical will fall under either the EMC
directive or the Low Voltage Directive and thus require CE marking to show
conformity. SES and TTE fall under the SES&TTE directive which is also
linked to the harmonised use of the CE mark.
Note also that when the R&TTE comes into force, the LVD is
to be changed such that electrical safety requirements apply to any R&TTE
product.
The mark may be prominently displayed on packaging to assist
European customs. It does not need to be placed on shipping containers as
these are allowed to be opened and inspected under customs legislation.
This is a slightly rushed response so I appologise if it is
not well worded. The scope I believe to be accurate but I welcome others to
join in on this one.
Bill Ellingford. Approvals Manager
Motion Media Technology Ltd
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From:
[email protected][SMTP:COLIN_MCGEECHAN@HP-Unite
dKingdom-om4.om.hp.com]
Sent: 23 June 1999 15:16
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Packaging vs. Shipping Container
Richard, Mark,
I have to disagree, the intention of the CE
mark is to show
compliance with European Directives (those
applicable), it allows
free movement of goods across the EU borders.
It's intention is
not to "provide the consumer with information
so that they can
make an informed purchasing decision."
I would suggest that a product can be designed,
manufactured and
sold within one European Country without having
the CE mark
applied. It may well be within the scope of
some European
Directive, but as long as it does not cross any
National Border
then the CE mark is not required, so long as it
meets the local
regulations.
Why would Joe Public care if his pc printer had
a CE mark as long
as it gives good quality prints and doesn't
interfere with his TV
set. You're mixing customer needs with
regulatory requirements.
I'd say put the mark on any of the packaging
you see fit, as long
as you can back this up with some rational. If
a customs
inspector isn't satisfied with the markings on
the shipping
container, they'll keep peeling the layers
until they find what
they are after.
Cheers,
Colin.
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Subject: RE: Packaging vs. Shipping Container
Author: Non-HP-MSchmidt ([email protected]) at
HP-UnitedKingdom,mimegw6
Date: 06/23/99 2:29 PM
Richard,
I agree.
Your definitions are very rational.
Regards,
Mark Schmidt
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Phone: (616) 257-2469
X-Rite Incorporated
3100 44th Street, S. W.
Grandville, Michigan 49418
USA
Website - www.x-rite.com <http://www.x-rite.com>
-----Original Message-----
From: WOODS, RICHARD [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:49 AM
To: 'emc-pstc'; 'treg'
Subject: Packaging vs. Shipping Container
Various EU Directives require certain information to
be placed on the
"packaging" of a product. However, packaging is not
defined. The intent of
the requirements appears to be to provide the
consumer with information so
that they can make an informed purchasing decision.
Please put on your
lawyer's hat and tell me if the following
definitions are reasonable to
distinguish "packaging" from a "shipping container"
for compliance marking
purposes.
Shipping Container: A protective container in which
a product is placed for
shipping purposes. The container is not intended for
public display of the
product such as in a retail store, nor is it
intended to convey product
information to the consumer; therefore, displayed
product information may be
limited. The product in the shipping container may
or may not be enclosed in
"packaging".
Products intended to be shipped direct to the end
user may not include
packaging.
Packaging: A container in which the product is
placed for public display
purposes in retail shops and similar stores.
Consumer information and
certain required compliance information is displayed
on the packaging.