Due to the ringing signals on the PSTN, you must specify the line interface
as TNV-3.


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
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Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 3:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: EN60950 TNV CIRCUITS



Purwin, Bill, Allen

Thanks for your comments.

With respect to coatings, I had thought of this but as Bill stated, there
are too many things to also meet as mentioned by Bill.  Coating might work
for an unpopulated PCB but when components are on already, I cannot see how
I can guarantee that everything is completely covered.

With respect to adding a hard wired Earth ground, I had mentioned that my
system is classified as Class II equipment, since we only connect to hot and
neutral of the AC mains and do not connect to earth at all.  I am worried
about adding an earth ground as it could create more problems than it
solves.

With respect to working voltage, I had stated that my TNV circuits connect
directly to the analog Telecom Network.  My working voltages are derrived,
as stated from a 28 Vrms input which is then converted to 40 VDC at worst
case.  What is actually used to power my TNV circuits is only 20 VDC
maximun, as my TNV circuits only use power to drive relays and only uses 5
VDC to run ICs and opto-isolators.  The 5 VDC is derrived by putting the 20
VDC through a 5 Volt regulator which in turn then feeds my TNV components.

The reason I was not sure if I could say TNV-1 was because although my
working voltage at worst case is 40 VDC or 28 Vrms, my TNV are connecting to
the Telcom Network, so I assumed that this depended not on my equipment but
on the public network.  The only thing I could come up with is the classic
working voltages for a TNV-3 of 70.7 Vpeak and 120 VDC to determine my
creepage and clearance requirements.  I have taken the public network as
unknown, which I believed force me to say TNV-3.

For TNV-1, many have told me this was done primarily to cover the new
digital technology such as ISDN, E1, T1, etc.

Although the CO is -48 VdC, possibly up to 57 VDC, one could almost say it
is in the range of SELV.  But I am not digital and I do not know how far I
could push it.  If I could get a way with TNV-1, working as SELV, then all I
would realy need is only operational insulation and also be able to use one
of the three clauses of section 5.5.4 of EN60950 for operational insulation.

It had also been mentioned to me, unfortunately I cannot remember who told
me and so please excuse me, that if I drill a hole or slot between the track
and pad, such that creepage, which is measured along a surface, must now go
around the slot and hence would increase my creepage.  I might also have to
add some insulating material sticking up at the slot to ensure I got
clearance since it is measured through air.  I thought this was a great idea
but since I use a double sided PCB, and thanks to Murphy's law, there were
tracks on the underside of the PCB, exactly where I would have placed the
slots.  This may not work for me now but I believe this is a great solution
that should be kept in mind in case anybody else could have a similar
problem.

To summarize then, I think I have TNV-3 which needs basic insulation between
TNV and SELV.  If I could somehow be able to classify as TNV-1 within limits
of SELV then I would only need operational insualtion between TNV and SELV.
This would solve my problem.

Any further comments welcomed.

Regards

Joe Schembri
[email protected]

RCIC - http://www.rcic.com
Regulatory Compliance Information Center



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